Ben_Copeland
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posted on 27/6/05 at 08:09 PM |
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Cheers Edd, I'll have a look, see if they can do all the bits and are cheaper than Ebuyer and CCL Computers.
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EddThompson
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posted on 27/6/05 at 08:11 PM |
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ccl are good from what ive heard, as for the mboard ive just had a look,
http://www.microdirect.co.uk/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductID=9591&GroupID=304
would be the one i would use from micro direct, as they dont seem to sel the epox boards.
id stick with the nforce 4 chip set over the via, other than that they are very similar unless you want overclock and fiddle.
edd
[Edited on 27/6/05 by EddThompson]
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Ben_Copeland
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posted on 27/6/05 at 08:13 PM |
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ok, i'll have a compare and see.
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EddThompson
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posted on 27/6/05 at 08:17 PM |
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sorry, the geek in me spluges out when it comes to pcs (and hifi/home cinema), been helping a friend piece on together so am relitvly in touch with
current bits.
edd
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Ben_Copeland
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posted on 27/6/05 at 08:19 PM |
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Thats fine, glad you are... i used to be like that... but now i dont have the time!
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Ben_Copeland
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posted on 27/6/05 at 08:47 PM |
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Edd, could you do me a favour and have a look on Microdirect and give me some recommendations on RAM ???
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EddThompson
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posted on 27/6/05 at 09:12 PM |
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sure thing, was just out walking the dog
http://www.microdirect.co.uk/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductID=5608&GroupID=57
looks good, as your board will support dual channel (all the 939s do)
plus there the pqi stuff as well, a little more expensive, but might be worth the extra (although ive got geil stuff in this machine)
edd
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Ben_Copeland
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posted on 27/6/05 at 09:15 PM |
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Excellent, thanks a lot. Thats an OK price hopefully.
Just a case to check now
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ReMan
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posted on 27/6/05 at 10:03 PM |
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This is one s**t hot machine are you sure you're not going to play games!
www.plusnine.co.uk
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pbura
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posted on 28/6/05 at 12:06 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by Ben_Copeland
pbura, I'll have a look for more power, get a bit expensive tho
I Googled UK sites for power supplies, and see that prices are high, and technical details for cheaper PSUs are non-existent. Edd's
Coolermaster has a good reputation here, too, as a quality product, prices aren't bad, and would prob be my 1st choice if I had to choose.
Very nice spec for your system It makes me wish I hadn't cut a couple of corners, even
Pete
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Ben_Copeland
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posted on 28/6/05 at 06:27 AM |
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I've changed it a little, reduced the graphics card a bit.
AMD Athlon 64 Venice 3000+ SKT939
Asus A8N-E AMB SKT 939 NForce4 Ultra HT 1000FSB PCI-E SATA
Maxtor Diamond Max 10 16-Gb SATA
Sapphire Radeon x300SE HyperMemory
Geil Value 1Gb PC3200 Dual Chan 2x512Mb
So far about £330 which blows my mind cos i remember when it all cost like it was gold plated !!!
And not decided on case.
[Edited on 28/6/05 by Ben_Copeland]
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Ben_Copeland
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posted on 28/6/05 at 07:06 AM |
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Thought about gettting :
http://www.microdirect.co.uk/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductID=4803&GroupID=511
http://www.microdirect.co.uk/Productinfo.aspx?ProductID=5152
400W and cheap enough, a lot of the cases MircoDirect do, dont have PSU's... so its extra cost.
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pbura
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posted on 28/6/05 at 11:33 AM |
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Here's how mine went, interesting to compare:
AMD Athlon 64 Newcastle 3200+ Socket 754 - $117
MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R VIA K8T800 - $71
CPU Heatsink Fan -
$24
Corsair TWINX1024-3200C2 (2 x 512) CL2.5 memory - $122
(2) Seagate Barracuda 7200 RPM ST380817AS 80GB Hard Drive SATA - $132
XFX GeForce FX 5200 video - $45
Generic eBay case 450W
- $51
Aspire ATX-MR450W power supply 30A on +12V - $38
Total $600! My first computer had a 32K CPU and no HD, and I paid over 2000 firmer US$ in 1983
I cheapskated the MB a little and sort of wish I'd taken an Nvidia-based board instead. Also have a power-hungry, noisy dinosaur of a video
card Shopped long and hard for the power supply, and it's also sort of an underdog but probably better than anything I've had
before.
Video review of a similar power supply
In retrospect, the PSU on the eBay case might have been enough with 18A on the +12V rail. I later estimated my needed amperage at 16A using this
calculator:
http://takaman.jp/D/?english
Ben, try the calculator and you'll probably find that a 400W case will do the job. I'm sure that the forum geeks have a point when it
comes to PSUs being a key to avoiding crashes, but there may be some hysteria because of really terrible problems with earlier ATX cases not being up
to these new CPUs.
Pete
[Edited on 28/6/05 by pbura]
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EddThompson
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posted on 28/6/05 at 01:20 PM |
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looks pretty good, the x300 is a great choise if your not playing games, ati are known for good picture quality.
any case will do, i tend to prefer the slightly more expensive ones (40 quid or so plus 20 quid psu) as i have bad memorys of shredded fingers, of
course most cases are fine now
http://www.microdirect.co.uk/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductID=9894&GroupID=131
this is the new version of mine, screwless (well other than the motherboard, and the side panel it think) it makes life much easyer in assembly,
quality case as well.
http://www.microdirect.co.uk/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductID=8991&GroupID=9
and again the same psu as i use, quality but cheap.
edd
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Ben_Copeland
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posted on 28/6/05 at 01:29 PM |
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The Calculator says 272.9W so 350,400W should do nicely
Cant seem to find the Amps for the 3.3v,5v,12v. Just will have to keep fingers crossed.
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pbura
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posted on 28/6/05 at 01:59 PM |
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Got a Danish review for you :
http://www.hardware-test.dk/oc/litteratur.asp?id=4050&type=test
19A on +12V looks adequate (better than most I've looked at).
I'd go 400W as I've seen it mentioned that there should be a 30% reserve from total.
Found a great site about PC building (figures, now that I've bought everything) and it looks like we're both on the right track as far as
good value for the technology:
http://www.mysuperpc.com/
Pete
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Tim 45
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posted on 28/6/05 at 08:03 PM |
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We have the Benz case,
The reason why its called a Benz case is that it has the Mercedes Benz logo on the front, also there are two blue neon lights (made up to look like
the front of a Mercedes)...
Is good value for money but be warned about the power supply, the motherboard we used needed a 24 power connector whereas the Benz case is only 20
pin. Had to buy another PSU
Cheers
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Ben_Copeland
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posted on 29/6/05 at 05:19 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by EddThompson
ccl are good from what ive heard, as for the mboard ive just had a look,
http://www.microdirect.co.uk/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductID=9591&GroupID=304
would be the one i would use from micro direct, as they dont seem to sel the epox boards.
id stick with the nforce 4 chip set over the via, other than that they are very similar unless you want overclock and fiddle.
edd
Ooooo the american forum i posted on dont like that Mboard, say ASUS are buggy....
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posted on 29/6/05 at 05:22 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by Tim 45
Is good value for money but be warned about the power supply, the motherboard we used needed a 24 power connector whereas the Benz case is only 20
pin. Had to buy another PSU
Cheers
oooooo good thing you meantioned that, the MBoard takes a 24pin connector
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EddThompson
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posted on 29/6/05 at 01:21 PM |
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read any forum anywhere and they will say something is buggy
there are plenty of boards about, the reason i chose asus is they keep the updates coming etc, and have a good build quality, gigabyte, abit or any of
them will be fine.
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Tim 45
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posted on 29/6/05 at 06:20 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by Ben_Copeland
quote: Originally posted by Tim 45
Is good value for money but be warned about the power supply, the motherboard we used needed a 24 power connector whereas the Benz case is only 20
pin. Had to buy another PSU
Cheers
oooooo good thing you meantioned that, the MBoard takes a 24pin connector
However i do not know of a way of checking the pin output of the PSU in a case. MD sell a 24 pin PSU, if that helps (around £30).
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Ben_Copeland
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posted on 29/6/05 at 07:01 PM |
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Maybe i'll just stick with Asus, or see if their is a GigaByte mainboard of same spec. Always liked gigabyte. Might just not bother and stick
with Asus.
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Ben_Copeland
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posted on 30/6/05 at 08:40 PM |
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Thanks everyone for your advise. I've purchased my bits.
Will let you know how it goes.
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EddThompson
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posted on 1/7/05 at 10:39 PM |
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yey
edd
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posted on 4/7/05 at 08:34 PM |
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