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DEAN C.

posted on 28/1/06 at 03:42 PM Reply With Quote
DIY/LOCOST Machinery plans

Hi,just had a thought which might get going.
Why not submit any non copyright plans on here for LOCOST , DIY tools and machinery etc.

Thoughts were plans for the following items:

Home built lathe (seriously I have seen these)

Milling /drilling machine


Garage waste oil heater/Pot bellied stove.

I have made these myself from HGV brake drums and have seen stoves made from car rims,gas bottles(I'll get flak about that)


Dust/fume extractors


Grit blasting cabinets.


Loads of other things can be DIY made.

Any thoughts to open this on a LOCOST theme?





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britishtrident

posted on 28/1/06 at 04:03 PM Reply With Quote
Waste oil burning heaters are highly dangerous -- lethal they tend to explode hours after you think they are extingished.

Even when buring pure kerosene or gas oil "Salamder" type stoves can explode durring the cooling down period. The motor trade stop using them for workshop heating over 40 years ago.

[Edited on 28/1/06 by britishtrident]

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Mix

posted on 28/1/06 at 04:03 PM Reply With Quote
I like this idea......a lot

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dave1888

posted on 28/1/06 at 04:30 PM Reply With Quote
I like the homebuilt lathe and miling machine idea.
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ch1ll1

posted on 28/1/06 at 04:38 PM Reply With Quote
sound like i need to make a big heater !
and make the wife stay there to make sure it cools ok !

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posted on 28/1/06 at 05:23 PM Reply With Quote
put "gingery" into google





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DEAN C.

posted on 28/1/06 at 05:27 PM Reply With Quote
Quote by British Trident:Waste oil burning heaters are highly dangerous -- lethal they tend to explode hours after you think they are extingished.
Even when buring pure kerosene or gas oil "Salamder" type stoves can explode durring the cooling down period. The motor trade stop using them for workshop heating over 40 years ago. (End quote)

As a general state ment that is not true.
Waste oil heaters are a commonly available in lots of modern workshop and are no more dangerous than any other heating.
If you are referring to the salamander stoves then yes I agree having used one a few years ago in my own workshop at home.
Mine had an external flue unlike the old open flue jobs,and I must admit I took it out because I worried about leaving the garage afterwards.

The latest fan assisted metered pump waste oil heaters are excellent and definately not illegal,although technically you need a waste burning licence,Ahem!!
At least four garages within five miles of my house use the modern type waste oil heaters in the workshops and I have never heard of any problems,although I do know of one person being badly burnt locally with the old type about ten years ago in a garage I nearly bought a few months before the incident(It could have been me!)

I was recently considering fitting two enormous waste oil heaters to our workshops but the consumption due to the workshop size would probably outrun our 2000gallon/year approx oil waste.
(The workshop I run can easily hold 15-18 HGV's+a handful of Transit size vehicles for storage)

Regards, Dean.....

[Edited on 28/1/06 by DEAN C.]





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Wadders

posted on 28/1/06 at 05:39 PM Reply With Quote
Some stuff here
http://www.green-trust.org/junkyardprojects/FreeHomeWorkshopPlans.html

here http://www.metalwebnews.com/howto/tube-bender/tube-bender.html

and here http://www.roddingroundtable.com/tech/articles/12ewheel.html

should keep you going for a while

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rusty nuts

posted on 28/1/06 at 06:55 PM Reply With Quote
Modern waste oil heaters don't like synthetic oil as it leaves a deposit like burnt plastic . Had this with a new heater and it wasn't covered by warranty . No mention of this in the instruction manual ! We very often had cars in with incorrect fuel , the cost of disposal was very near the cost of the fuel in the first place . We used to mix 5lts of mixed fuel to every 50 lts of waste oil with now problems
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Mansfield

posted on 28/1/06 at 07:21 PM Reply With Quote
Dont you need a lathe and a milling machine to make a lathe and a milling machine?
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Peteff

posted on 28/1/06 at 07:29 PM Reply With Quote
Yes

and a home foundry. Here's some plans for a heater I have in my favourites . You need an old boiler to build it though, and I don't mean the mother in law .





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posted on 28/1/06 at 07:49 PM Reply With Quote
if you follow the gingery series then you need a small foundry to cast aluminium to make both the lathe and the mill.
the lathe must be made first and the lathe itself helps make the finished lathe then the lathe is used to make the mill.

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caber

posted on 28/1/06 at 08:19 PM Reply With Quote
I saw the inside of a very large flame thanks to a Salamander! It was out, empty and I was refilling it and it flashed over, Thankfully I had glasses on with welding overalls and a cap so no significant injury:-)

The following week the thing vomited flaming oil all over the workshop floor! The next week it was dumped outside never to be used again. Apparently they are really well behaved if you feed them clean parrafin or diesel, They are still the heater of choice for outdoor applications such as tree nurseries, they can certainly pump ut the heat.

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posted on 29/1/06 at 09:06 AM Reply With Quote
Home made tools

Hi,

I've made,

a pipe bender / hydraulic press,

pyramid rolls, (for can inner tubes & bodies)

1m sheet folder

English wheel

No drawings I'm afraid, but pics if anyone is interested.
It would take me as long to do drawings as it would to make the tool.
I'm useless with a pencil, and even worse with Cad.

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DEAN C.

posted on 29/1/06 at 10:17 AM Reply With Quote
Hi,photos would be fine if you could link or attach from here.
Already we have have had lots of useful links to give people ideas.





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posted on 29/1/06 at 10:59 AM Reply With Quote
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Confused but excited.

posted on 4/2/06 at 11:45 PM Reply With Quote
Oy vey! Vot a vorkshop dis boy has.

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C10CoryM

posted on 5/2/06 at 05:04 PM Reply With Quote
For anyone looking to get into banging out shapes in sheet you can build your own shaping/planishing hammer out of some square stock and an old air hammer and a air valve. Make a frame similar to 907s english wheel frame but instead of the wheels mount the airhammer and an anvil (old hammer head or something) Use an air flow valve and mount to a foot pedal.
Gets you something like this for about $30
http://www.tinmantech.com/assets/images/kent_w_airh_lg.jpg

Great post guys.





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DEAN C.

posted on 9/2/06 at 09:42 PM Reply With Quote
Hi, the shaping hammer looks useful,a sort of cross between an english wheel and an old steam hammer(but smaller).

When you say an old air hammer I presume that you mean an air chisel?

Dean.......





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rabiddog

posted on 10/2/06 at 12:54 AM Reply With Quote
If you email me i can probably dig out a few homemade and fabricated lathe plans in PDF for you most are available off the net just cant remeber where i got them all from lol

All the Best

Craig





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C10CoryM

posted on 10/2/06 at 03:20 AM Reply With Quote
Crud, I lost what I had typed.

Dean, Yes an air chisel if you prefer.


Called air hammers here but 90% of the time you have a chisel bit of some sort in it anyhow.

The planishing hammer is used to smooth out rough marks and/or curve the sheet. Usually you beat out a peice roughly on a sandbag or similar then use the air hammer to smooth out your hammer marks and fine tune. Can also be used similar to an english wheel. It is amazing how fast someone who knows how to work a planishing hammer can beat out a peice .
You dont need a powerful hammer btw, its more about the hits per minute than the power.
Cheers.





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