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Author: Subject: are you a pusher or a puller
mangogrooveworkshop

posted on 26/10/10 at 08:15 PM Reply With Quote
are you a pusher or a puller

and how do you check your root penetration






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Wadders

posted on 26/10/10 at 08:18 PM Reply With Quote
1- depends on the flavour
2- 30 years experience






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austin man

posted on 26/10/10 at 08:18 PM Reply With Quote
we are talking welding here I hope





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RazMan

posted on 26/10/10 at 08:18 PM Reply With Quote
That's a bit personal aint it?





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Benzine

posted on 26/10/10 at 08:21 PM Reply With Quote
was a puller, now a pusher





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Danozeman

posted on 26/10/10 at 08:23 PM Reply With Quote
Im a pusher and I like to see little lumps on the rear.





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indykid

posted on 26/10/10 at 08:25 PM Reply With Quote
i'm a pusher primarily and it depends if i can see the back or not. if not, i turn it up, hit and hope






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RichardK

posted on 26/10/10 at 08:28 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Benzine
was a puller, now a pusher


X2

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LBMEFM

posted on 26/10/10 at 08:35 PM Reply With Quote
Wadders- why doesn't your girlie move anymore
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craig1410

posted on 26/10/10 at 08:45 PM Reply With Quote
I tend to push weld these days although I used to pull when I first started. I feel that pushing gives me better visibility of the weld pool and I understand you tend to get better penetration.

As someone else stated above, I look for signs of the weld dripping through the other side of the piece. If I can't see the other side then I just judge from the shape of the weld on the top side. With experience, you can tell if it is sitting on the surface or if it is emerging through the surface. You can also tell from the build up of weld pool relative to wire speed. If the weld pool builds up too quickly compared to the wire speed it feels like you are getting pushed away from the surface but if the penetration is good then the wire will be absorbed without s much build up. Not sure if I'm explaining that very well but it makes sense to me... ;-)

If in doubt then practice on scrap metal and saw it in half to check penetration.

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craig1410

posted on 26/10/10 at 08:46 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by LBMEFM
Wadders- why doesn't your girlie move anymore


+1 She was the highlight of my LB forum visits!

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Wadders

posted on 26/10/10 at 09:04 PM Reply With Quote
Not sure what happened to her



Originally posted by LBMEFM
Wadders- why doesn't your girlie move anymore







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matt_claydon

posted on 26/10/10 at 09:08 PM Reply With Quote
It's because the image is to tall, and the new auto-resizer can't cope with animations.


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keith777

posted on 26/10/10 at 09:13 PM Reply With Quote
Love it !!
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loggyboy

posted on 26/10/10 at 09:51 PM Reply With Quote
which ever creates the nicest weld on the job at hand. I refuse to conform that one is always better than the other.
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Volvorsport

posted on 26/10/10 at 10:38 PM Reply With Quote
push .

i like a bit of spray transfer aswell.





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Peteff

posted on 26/10/10 at 11:16 PM Reply With Quote
You don't get proper gas coverage pulling, and I've heard it can also affect your eyesight





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SeaBass

posted on 27/10/10 at 06:50 AM Reply With Quote
Used to pull, now push with MIG. Mainly due to pushing with TIG to get decent heat into the workpiece.
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MakeEverything

posted on 27/10/10 at 07:50 AM Reply With Quote
I do both very quickly, depending on how good looking she is....





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nick205

posted on 27/10/10 at 08:18 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by matt_claydon
It's because the image is to tall, and the new auto-resizer can't cope with animations.


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Good work Matt


As far as I'm concerned the rest of this thread is now redundant

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donny

posted on 27/10/10 at 04:25 PM Reply With Quote
Completely distracted by that ^^^ now! My posting in the alternative universe thread...my SVQ training... was always to push for better penetration. Pulling is more akin to welding art than welding. Do one test piece of each, cut them and see how good they look.

Back to the dancing girl! Arrr~!

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NS Dev

posted on 28/10/10 at 07:15 AM Reply With Quote
completely distracted too, for got about that wadders!

As for push/pull, do both, with both tig and mig!

Big stuff, heavy work, high power, always push.

Thin stuff, low power, pull.

tig, bit of both, pushing looks neater, pulling sometimes easier and probably better penetration, never been sure with tig though, kinda debatable what the difference is too!





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mangogrooveworkshop

posted on 28/10/10 at 06:27 PM Reply With Quote
I have had my whole welding technique turned on its head.
Dave and I are doing a welding course to get the tig up and running. The course also has mig so we are taking the time to learn the correct ways to achieve good welds and avoid the pitfalls.

Spray transfer is just fab....
We have been doing the roots and caps as well as spray transfer...
With the new style my welds are really stacking the dimes in a very controlled and repeatable way. Would suggest anyone who has never welded before get a course as you get to use their gas and machines to learn on.






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907

posted on 29/10/10 at 02:42 AM Reply With Quote
Steady on Mango'


You'll be buying a copy of "A C Davies" next.


Enjoy your course. Knowledge lasts a life time.


Cheers
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SeaBass

posted on 31/10/10 at 10:00 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 907
You'll be buying a copy of "A C Davies" next.



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