907
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| posted on 8/4/09 at 06:41 PM |
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Trailer. How big?
Hi All. I need a bit of help.
I intend to make a car trailer, well part make anyway.
I have found a chap who will sell me a trailer chassis, complete with axles, low profile 10" wheels, 
hitch, winch, in fact ready to tow home, just fit a number plate.
I would then make and fit my own multi purpose top.
The chassis beams, the axles and cross members are available in different lengths so I can have anything
from a 5'x10' to a 6'x12' all professionally made and galvanized.
I have limited space to store it so the smaller the better, but it needs to big enough to carry sports cars.
I'm thinking maybe 6' x 10'. (flat bed) That would be OK for sevens.
The question is, what other kit cars would fit on it, or probably more important what cars wouldn't fit.
Your thoughts please.
Many thanks
Paul G
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Guinness
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| posted on 8/4/09 at 06:44 PM |
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Well my Indy is:-
Width from outside of tyre to outside of tyre is 1650mm (65" . Bear in mind that is with normal Sierra offset wheels and 185/60R14 R888's
fitted. Other wheels / tyre combo might be slightly different.
From fog light to nose cone is 3350mm or 11' in old money.
Wheelbase is 2340mm or 92"
Hope that helps
Mike
P.S. Are you making a trailer for yourself, or for sale?
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John Bonnett
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| posted on 8/4/09 at 07:30 PM |
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Hi Paul
My own trailer is about 6ft x 10ft and whilst the width is okay there have been occasions when the car only just fitted on lengthwise. It depends on
how much body there is in front of the front wheels(if you drive it on forwards). I think 11ft long would be a safer bet and give you the ability to
transport a wider range of vehicles. Only my opinoin of course.
atb
John
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 8/4/09 at 07:37 PM |
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You are welcome to measure mine (the car, that is!  ).
Let me know if you want to - I'm always looking for an excuse to drive around... 
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mark chandler
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| posted on 8/4/09 at 07:49 PM |
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If the trailer is going to be the size of a typical kit then you should think about adjustable suspension mountings.
Because my BEC is very light at the front the wheels sit far back on the trailer, if I shove something with a heavy engine up front the nose weight
would be massive unless I move the axle forward.
You lose the option to shift the car about with a small deck so have to balance elsewhere.
Regards Mark
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907
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| posted on 8/4/09 at 08:05 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Guinness
Well my Indy is:-
Width from outside of tyre to outside of tyre is 1650mm (65" . Bear in mind that is with normal Sierra offset wheels and 185/60R14 R888's
fitted. Other wheels / tyre combo might be slightly different.
From fog light to nose cone is 3350mm or 11' in old money.
Wheelbase is 2340mm or 92"
Hope that helps
Mike
P.S. Are you making a trailer for yourself, or for sale?
Cheers Mike, that's a great help. The same as my +4 Locost.
Yup, trailer is for me. I will now need to pick up sheets of metal etc and perhaps one day deliver completed jobs.
It makes sense to be able to fit a car on, my own included.
Cheers
Paul G
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907
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| posted on 8/4/09 at 08:12 PM |
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John. Wise words, as always.
Mark. A VERY good point.
David. Your more than welcome anytime.
Any dims of cars other than sevens?
Cheers
Paul G
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Danozeman
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| posted on 8/4/09 at 08:33 PM |
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Id go longer than 10 ft paul.
The dimensions of mine are the Bed is 10ft 9 x 5ft 3 infront of the wheels and 6ft 4 behind. The drawbar is 4ft 7 so the overall length is about 15
1/2 ft.
It was built to take my locost there is a couple of inches spare on length going by car length not wheel base. MIne is cortina back axle with 38
ofset wheels so the back is wider than escort axle.
I think most cars are of similar wheel bases etc. Like the stylus etc.
Dan
Built the purple peril!! Let the modifications begin!!
http://www.eastangliankitcars.co.uk
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dhutch
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| posted on 8/4/09 at 10:10 PM |
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My box is 6*12*4 which with a narrowbody wesdfeild is very nice, leaves a foot at the back i can put a pushbike into which i find usfull, otherwise
11ft would work well too but i think 10ft would be pushing it.
Daniel
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MK9R
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| posted on 9/4/09 at 06:38 AM |
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my brian james has 5ft 6in X 11ft bed, the ST went on perfectly and the fury just squeezes on (width wise).
[Edited on 9/4/09 by MK9R]
Cheers Austen
RGB car number 9
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NS Dev
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| posted on 9/4/09 at 12:53 PM |
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my 4 wheel trailer is 6ft x 13ft and that will fit pretty much anything on it, though it will only CARRY 1200kg so although a scorpio or jag XJ will
fit, its too heavy.
Retro RWD is the way forward...........automotive fabrication, car restoration, sheetmetal work, engine conversion
retro car restoration and tuning
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Fred W B
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| posted on 9/4/09 at 08:16 PM |
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quote:
6ft x 13ft
That's big enough to carry my car (lola t70 inspired)
overall length 4000 mm
wheel base 2400 mm
Width over wheels 1750 mm
Cheers
Fred W B
You can do it quickly. You can do it cheap. You can do it right. – Pick any two.
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iank
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| posted on 9/4/09 at 08:24 PM |
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Cobra's are one of the bigger kitcars
Wheelbase 2286 mm 90 in
Track 1422 mm 56 in
Length 3962 mm 156 in
Width 1727 mm 68 in
Height 1245 mm 49 in
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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907
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| posted on 9/4/09 at 09:02 PM |
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Thanks for the replies so far chaps.
OK, so I'm now thinking 11' x 6'.
There is one other thing to add to the equation.
My tin top (A3) has a max towing weight of 1500kgs for a braked trailer.
Cheers
Paul G
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John Bonnett
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| posted on 10/4/09 at 08:40 AM |
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quote: My tin top (A3) has a max towing weight of 1500kgs for a braked trailer.
You'll have to drill the trailer for lightness 
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907
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| posted on 10/4/09 at 09:22 AM |
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How much does a hole weigh John?
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John Bonnett
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| posted on 10/4/09 at 11:17 AM |
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how long is a piece of string??
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907
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| posted on 10/4/09 at 10:00 PM |
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Hi All.
I phoned "Trailer Trev" today and discussed the points that all of you have raised.
We now have a plan based on a 10 foot chassis, but extendable if necessary.
By keeping the four low profile wheels mainly within the chassis I solve my limited
storage space problem and if necessary it would fit in the garage and I could work
on a car while it was still on the trailer.
Thanks muchly for all your help. I will post a pic in a couple of weeks and show
how it's progressing.
Cheers
Paul G
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907
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| posted on 31/5/09 at 05:47 PM |
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Progress report
Hi All.
My set of cool wheels still haven't arrived. 
It doesn't look it in the pic but the one on the front is 3" off the ground.
It's a five stud held on with one nut. The one's on order are four stud.
Just the middle sheet to fit and some ramps to fold up and it's done.
(note, no painting. I'm crap at painting. )
Cheers
Paul G
 
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wilkingj
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| posted on 1/6/09 at 07:14 AM |
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I saw it yesterday, and it looks spiffin'
Stupid me didnt measure it up to see if it would accomodate a Viento.
Dont forget some tie down loops on the trailer so you can secure open loads.
Also invest in some 3" wide 5 ton ratchet straps. I had some which I used with my full length roofrack on my landy. I wouldnt be without them
now. Excellent bits of kit and Soooo useful and simple.
1. The point of a journey is not to arrive.
2. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
Best Regards
Geoff
http://www.v8viento.co.uk
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Danozeman
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| posted on 8/6/09 at 05:33 PM |
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Looks good that Paul. Just one Q. Will a low car clear them arches? They look quite high?
Dan
Built the purple peril!! Let the modifications begin!!
http://www.eastangliankitcars.co.uk
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907
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| posted on 8/6/09 at 05:51 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Danozeman
Looks good that Paul. Just one Q. Will a low car clear them arches? They look quite high?
Hi Dan
A "seven" body should go between the mudguards. Only the front wheels will run over them when loading.
They are 100mm high so a full width body will need 100mm ground clearance at the sills.
It still looks stupidly high on the build wheels. The LP 10" ones arrive Friday, allegedly. 
Cheers
Paul G
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907
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| posted on 13/6/09 at 01:20 PM |
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Now with Cool Wheels
I'm off to sort the ramps now.
Cheers
Paul G
 
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