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daviep

posted on 11/9/11 at 08:42 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by adithorp
Look like Chinese knock offs to me. From what you can make out on the vid', the discs are pretty thick and cupped at the center like a grinding disc. Cutting discs discs are flatter and not that thick. So if thats correct and the printing is dodgy along with dodgy quality... =counterfit?

I've had a dodgy batch of cutting discs in the past but they didn't explode, just broke up from the edge like very rapid wear.


Looks like a bog standard depressed centre 3mm cutting disc to me, the super thin 1mm or 1.6mm also come in flat centre or depressed.

EDIT: incorrect facts removed

[Edited on 11/9/11 by daviep]





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flak monkey

posted on 11/9/11 at 08:57 PM Reply With Quote
My Norton 0.7mm discs are depressed centre, and probably the most resiliant cutting discs I have ever used.... done the whole floor in my Camaro with one disc...

Discs/grinding wheels only break for 4 reasons:

Misuse
Incorrect mounting
Incorrect speed - usually too fast
Age - only on rubber or resin wheels though.





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Benzine

posted on 11/9/11 at 09:01 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by flak monkey
My Norton 0.7mm discs are depressed centre, and probably the most resiliant cutting discs I have ever used.... done the whole floor in my Camaro with one disc...



Impressive! I use decent 0.75mm discs from my local welding shop and they, too, have depressed centres. I'll look into Norton though as the ones I use wear our rather quickly (and cost a bomb!)

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adithorp

posted on 11/9/11 at 09:12 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by daviep

Looks like a bog standard depressed centre 3mm cutting disc to me, the super thin 1mm or 1.6mm only come in flat centre but 3mm discs can be flat or depressed.


Could be, but look more like 5mm discs in the pack to me when he holds them up edge on. Yes, it says 3mm on the disc but if they are counterfiet then that could be. Don't think I've ever noticed what look like cracks around the hub on new discs, before like those have.





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ReMan

posted on 11/9/11 at 09:26 PM Reply With Quote
Mine was bought from Machine mart in the last month





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daviep

posted on 11/9/11 at 09:50 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by adithorp
quote:
Originally posted by daviep

Looks like a bog standard depressed centre 3mm cutting disc to me, the super thin 1mm or 1.6mm only come in flat centre but 3mm discs can be flat or depressed.


Could be, but look more like 5mm discs in the pack to me when he holds them up edge on. Yes, it says 3mm on the disc but if they are counterfiet then that could be. Don't think I've ever noticed what look like cracks around the hub on new discs, before like those have.


Still think it looks exactly like what it claims to be, the cracks around the hub are 100% normal in my experience.

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flak monkey

posted on 12/9/11 at 07:46 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by flak monkey
My Norton 0.7mm discs are depressed centre, and probably the most resiliant cutting discs I have ever used.... done the whole floor in my Camaro with one disc...



Impressive! I use decent 0.75mm discs from my local welding shop and they, too, have depressed centres. I'll look into Norton though as the ones I use wear our rather quickly (and cost a bomb!)


You can get them from Screwfix, about £8.50 for 5

http://www.screwfix.com/p/flexovit-ultra-thin-metal-cutting-discs-pack-of-5/71334

Just gentle pressure, more cutting under their own weight





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MikeRJ

posted on 12/9/11 at 07:54 PM Reply With Quote
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Vitrified wheels dont have a shelf life and will keep indefinately. This is the sort of wheels you have on your bench grinder.


I seem to recall from my apprentice days that even vitrified grinding wheel age and have a finite shelf life, but it's quite long (10 years maybe?).

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flak monkey

posted on 12/9/11 at 07:58 PM Reply With Quote
I'll check tomorrow with our grinding wheel rep, but I am pretty sure vit wheels are good indefinately if stored under normal conditions.





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FASTdan

posted on 20/9/11 at 02:12 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by adithorp
Look like Chinese knock offs to me. From what you can make out on the vid', the discs are pretty thick and cupped at the center like a grinding disc. Cutting discs discs are flatter and not that thick. So if thats correct and the printing is dodgy along with dodgy quality... =counterfit?

I've had a dodgy batch of cutting discs in the past but they didn't explode, just broke up from the edge like very rapid wear.


I bought a pack of clarke metal cutting discs with depressed center from machine mart. They were absolutely crap, wore out within 20% of the normal 'industrial' cutting discs I've used in the past. They also made a horrendous amount of dust.





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TimC

posted on 20/9/11 at 03:03 PM Reply With Quote
From my own experience, it is reasonably common for a manufacturer to carry out due-diligence to extend the shelf life on an item, particularly when prompted by an impending write-off.

It could easily be a 'legitimate' change in shelf life; one would therefore hope that the manufacturer would hold documentary evidence to prove that the materials were adequately tested and safe to use.






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