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Tool to form lip on coolant pipes
MikeRJ - 4/1/06 at 02:46 PM

Does anyone know either who sells these, or what the offical name for them is so I can search?

This is a tool that can form a raised lip on thin wall tubing such as that used in cooling systems, to prevent a rubber pipe slipping off when secure with a jubilee clip etc. I've seen a picture of one ages ago, so I'm sure these do exist (and not just in my imagination!).


Mike S - 4/1/06 at 03:11 PM

The ones that I have seen are in the Frost catalogue.

They call them Bead Form Tools.

Very nice but quite expensive (£400 ish), so only really an option if you are doing loads of them.

www.frost.co.uk

Alternatively, Car Builder Solutions will make them up for you.

Regards

Mike


MikeRJ - 4/1/06 at 03:11 PM

Just to answer myself they are called "tube beading tools" and they are very, very expensive.

A locost method is to modify the jaws of a pair of vice grips to put a groove in one and a matching lip on the other.


zxrlocost - 4/1/06 at 03:12 PM

pop rivet the end of the pipe

hey presto


cidersurfer - 4/1/06 at 03:36 PM

As zxrlocost says rivets work a treat


Wadders - 4/1/06 at 03:45 PM

I think Rorty's bead roller plans include dies for
beading tube.

http://www.rorty-design.com/content/bead_roller_plans.htm


Terrapin_racing - 4/1/06 at 03:51 PM

Earls tubing supplies in Uk do some cost effective tools to bead piping. I have one and it is excellent.

http://www.earls.co.uk

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rusty nuts - 4/1/06 at 03:52 PM

Wasn't there a post on here a year or so ago about a home made beading tool ?


Terrapin_racing - 4/1/06 at 03:56 PM

and further details from Earls catalogue

I have used very successfully on mild steel tube also

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MkIndy7 - 4/1/06 at 04:12 PM

If its copper pipe, solder a socket on the end


DaveFJ - 4/1/06 at 04:34 PM

IIRC someone suggested using a pair of mole grips....

weld a bead along the lower jaw and file a matching chunk out of the upper jaw. then just 'crimp' the pipe in stages all the way round.....


Volvorsport - 4/1/06 at 07:11 PM

you could do what this turbobricker did !!

http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=58790&highlight=bead+maker


MikeR - 4/1/06 at 07:57 PM

or you could contact allyfab, bryn is a great bloke with great prices and good service.

(yeah, i'm a happy customer)


RazMan - 4/1/06 at 08:55 PM

A tip I picked up is to anneal the pipe first to reduce risk of cracking.

Molegrip dodge sounds feasable and I might try that.

Apparently you can get the same security by flaring the end out gradually with a small open ended spanner - not as pretty though.


givemethebighammer - 4/1/06 at 09:35 PM

I did mine this way

http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=14691


DaveFJ - 5/1/06 at 10:09 AM

excellent solution volvosport....

for those to lazy to follow the link......




surely one of our enterprising chaps on here could start knocking out the wheels on a lathe ? I'm sure they would sell....


02GF74 - 5/1/06 at 10:40 AM

clearly the two rollers are brought closer together by doing up the vice but how are they held to the vice jaws?

Now this has got me thinking - for those without a lathe, how about using some large penny washers with smaller ones for the recess welded to each other?


RazMan - 5/1/06 at 10:44 AM

Drilled and tapped into the sides of the jaws or maybe welded?


rusty nuts - 5/1/06 at 05:10 PM

Might be worth using a couple ol lengths of angle iron to fit in vice jaws with a plate welded on the end drilled and tapped to take the bolts . quick and easy to fit into place . Think i'll try it out tomorrow if I get time.