Hi guys

I don't know how much interest there is in new technology here, but we've been selling LED headlights for about 18 months now. We fairly recently took on what I think are about the best looking 7" headlights on the market which we stock with either a black or chrome fascia (chrome currently out of stock). These aren't cheap, we've been selling them for £324.99 a pair (still the cheapest in UK I believe), I have just one pair left in the black finish. They come with a built in halo ring which does both DRL & indicator, these work in the correct way, in that DRL turns off with dip beam (providing you wire them correctly!) & when using the indicator the DRL goes off & reinstates after about 1/2 a second. These are a massive 2800 lumen low beam, 3700 high beam (about 3 to 4 times the light output of a typical halogen) & throw a flat dip beam pattern, fine for UK MoT. If we can get a group of at least 10 together then I can do these for£280 a pair + P & P - yes I know it's a lot of money, but it is nice to see where you are going at night & the bright DRL's just might stop some moron turning across you! The 5 & 3/4" units are a fair bit cheaper ..........


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We will be reordering these from our Taiwan supplier shortly & they now offer both an alternative 7" unit & a 5 & 3/4" unit I thought there might be a group buy opportunity if I can get sufficient interest. The alternative 7" unit is a whopping 75W with a lumens output of 4500 main, 3450 dip, it doesn't have the halo, but has built in DRL/indicator top & bottom, again flat dip beam pattern- it's slightly cheaper & if we get a group buy together then I can do these at £265 a pair + P & P (they will be retailing at around £310)

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Finally the 5 & 3/4" units, which are the best price & probably of most interest to you guys, as I'm sure there must be plenty of you with 5 & 3/4" lights who can't see where the road is at night! These again have the halo ring which does DRL & amber indicator. Dip beam is 2400 lumen, main is 3850, again a flat dip beam pattern. All of these lights have been submitted for DoT approval (the 75W has E mark & DoT approval, the others are new & DoT not yet granted, not that it matters for UK use). These I can do at £199 + P & P on the group buy (retail around £230)

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If we get a group buy together I will need a 40% deposit up front for these lights, I can't afford to have loads of stock I may not want, we are still testing the water with these. Delivery should be around 6 weeks from time of deposit, we ship air mail, not sea, but suppliers usually want 35 - 40 days to get the order sorted in - don't ask me why, it's just the way things work in the far East! If any of that sounds a bit wobbly or like a scam, I'm quite sure there are sufficient people on here who have dealt with me & know my reputation.
The lights carry a one year RTB warranty (that's RTB to me, for you guys, NOT Tawian!), but have an expected life of 50,000 hours, of the LED headlights we've sold we have not had one single failure to date.

I'm away on hols for 2 weeks as from Mon 27th Apr, but should be able to access the internet from time to time & I have a colleague who may be able to help, so please register your interest or ask any questions & I'll get back to you when I can. I would like to get the order in to them as soon as possible on my return (May 11) & won't be asking for any deposits until I have confirmed timings/prices etc

Cheers Russ

Any pictures of the complete units? Or is it 'bring your own bowl' ?

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Originally posted by Quinten
Any pictures of the complete units? Or is it 'bring your own bowl' ?

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they look interesting,... I have the standard cheap plastic bowl in my Fury le mans bonnet, would these still fit?
Are they available as for fitment to Land Rover Defender,. they have round headlights?

Are there any issues with MOT as there are with HID?

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Originally posted by HowardB
they look interesting,... I have the standard cheap plastic bowl in my Fury le mans bonnet, would these still fit?
Are they available as for fitment to Land Rover Defender,. they have round headlights?

Are there any issues with MOT as there are with HID?

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thanks, sounds good. Appreciate the answers

May well be interested in a 5 !/4 pair if the GB comes off.

Im interested in the 5 3/4 £199 pair.

I'm interested in a pair of 5 3/4.

I like the angel eye DRL and the indicator on board is a bonus!

I'd be interested in a 5 3/4" set.

Defiantly interested in the black 5 3/4, that have the angel eye, DRL and the indicator all in one unit. Any chance you can also supply the head lamp bowls?

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Are they ok for IVA?

Paul

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Are they ok for IVA?

Paul

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Russ,

will you be at Stonleigh?

thanks

Howard

I'm interested in a pair of 5 3/4.

I knew it was a bad idea coming on this site...

I actually really like the middle one with the creepy spiders eye’s, I’m very tempted to get those for my old landy as these look just evil. I could easily sell a few things next week to pay for them…£265 a pair + P & P? I take it these would pass MOT??



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Originally posted by Mr Whippy
I knew it was a bad idea coming on this site...

I actually really like the middle one with the creepy spiders eye’s, I’m very tempted to get those for my old landy as these look just evil. I could easily sell a few things next week to pay for them…£265 a pair + P & P? I take it these would pass MOT??



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Originally posted by HowardB
Russ,

will you be at Stonleigh?

thanks

Howard

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Hi Howard

The Le-Mans bonnet for my fury is in storage at the moment, so I can't quickly get to it to measure up - can you please help me?

Are our lights 5 or 7", and do you think a 7" light could go in there?

If so, I am definitely on for the turbo nutter 3450 lumens dip, 4200 main. I like the idea of blinding the ISS.

I can concur that the light given out by fury lamps is dangerous at its worst.

And to Russ's other point, I and many others would vouch for him - top chap and totally passionate. I'm also going to go for the Lithium battery when I can as part of my pathological approach for lightness and reduction in polar moment of inertia.

I wonder how much lighter these units are, if they are

Thanks
M

M,

I want to have the car out over the weekend, so will measure up.

I'm interested as a good drive about the lanes the other night was interesting,....

H

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Originally posted by FuryRebuild
Hi Howard

The Le-Mans bonnet for my fury is in storage at the moment, so I can't quickly get to it to measure up - can you please help me?

Are our lights 5 or 7", and do you think a 7" light could go in there?

If so, I am definitely on for the turbo nutter 3450 lumens dip, 4200 main. I like the idea of blinding the ISS.

I can concur that the light given out by fury lamps is dangerous at its worst.

And to Russ's other point, I and many others would vouch for him - top chap and totally passionate. I'm also going to go for the Lithium battery when I can as part of my pathological approach for lightness and reduction in polar moment of inertia.

I wonder how much lighter these units are, if they are

Thanks
M

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Hi Russ

In that case, put me down for a pair of the 7" monsters.

Many thanks
Mark

Sorry, something I should have said back at the start, if any of you use the Haynes/Westfield/lotus or any similar forums, if it is legit to post group buys on there then please put a link to this. I already have a couple of other interested parties who've emailed/u2u'd me, so I think it's looking very likely this could go ahead & the discounts are well worth having!

I'd be interested in a set of the 5 3/4 please

Mark.

I have measured the hole the bowl fits through... approx 4 3/4" and the front fixing ring is approx 6". I don't think that there is space for the 7" lamps under the covers, so I conclude that it takes the smaller 5 3/4" fitment.

Russ,

How soon do I need to commit to a purchase?

Thanks

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Originally posted by FuryRebuild
Hi Russ

In that case, put me down for a pair of the 7" monsters.

Many thanks
Mark

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Originally posted by HowardB
Mark.

I have measured the hole the bowl fits through... approx 4 3/4" and the front fixing ring is approx 6". I don't think that there is space for the 7" lamps under the covers, so I conclude that it takes the smaller 5 3/4" fitment.

Russ,

How soon do I need to commit to a purchase?

Thanks

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HowardB, Russ

Many thanks for the advice so far. I am still committed to the brightest lights I can get in there for the aperture size.

Cheers
Mark

I am interested in a 5 3/4 set please.
Regards, John

Are the 5 3/4" ones 95mm deep? Or is that for the 7" lights?

Thanks

I will measure up what lights I have on mine, but I do like the 5 3/4 option with the LED/DRL halo.

Having said that I was going to replace my current chrome lights with some smaller 4 inch black ones I purchased a while back. Am I right in thinking these 4 inch lights would be next to useless, other than looking nice and sleek ?

If I were to keep my Chrome ones and get the LED inserts, what options would I have for turning the chrome to black, painting them etc ?

I'm interested in a pair of 5 3/4" ones.

The Fury LeMans bonnet definitely takes 5 3/4" lamps. The Classic bonnet (I believe) takes 7" units.

I'll join the list for some 5 3/4" units then. Extra bright please

I'll join the list for some 5 3/4" units then. Extra bright please

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Originally posted by adithorp
I'm interested in a pair of 5 3/4" ones.

The Fury LeMans bonnet definitely takes 5 3/4" lamps. The Classic bonnet (I believe) takes 7" units.

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this is what the fury le-mans bonnet fitting looks like,. and the markings from the lens,... I will remove the headlight cover and measure properly at the weekend


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either that will help or it will confuse,.... LOL

Looking at that, there is no way a 7" goes in there.

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Originally posted by HowardB
this is what the fury le-mans bonnet fitting looks like,. and the markings from the lens,... I will remove the headlight cover and measure properly at the weekend


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either that will help or it will confuse,.... LOL

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That'd be because it's a LeMans bonnet and they take 5 3/4" lamps.

Adi,

I agree, that's what I thought and that is why I took the pictures. The confusion was because the lamps are marked as a 7R-01066

thanks for confirming my conclusions,.



see you at Stonleigh?

I'm interested in a pair of 5 3/4.

Put me down for 5.75 please

Can you not get these for the Dominator? Not so worried about having a built in driving light or indicator if space is too tight.

After using my car at night for the first time in 7 years I think I can say I want some to replace my Dominators too.

5 3/4 please with housings or suggestions where to get some. But I do like the spider eye 7" versions too (can you get these in the 5 3/4?)

Give us an update when you get back.

Any suggestion where to get 5 3/4 bowls ?

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Can you not get these for the Dominator? Not so worried about having a built in driving light or indicator if space is too tight.

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Originally posted by Moorron
After using my car at night for the first time in 7 years I think I can say I want some to replace my Dominators too.

5 3/4 please with housings or suggestions where to get some. But I do like the spider eye 7" versions too (can you get these in the 5 3/4?)

Give us an update when you get back.

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Hi All

Sorry it's taken a while for me to get back to you all on this, internet was virtually non-existent in Cuba & very slow & expensive when it did work, hence I haven't made any updates till I got back & first couple of days was busy getting everything back straight - you know what it's like coming back from hols, almost wish you'd never been!

Right, unless lots of you drop out when we need deposit which is now very shortly then the group buy will definitely go ahead, I am contacting my supplier today & would expect an answer by tomo/over the w/e to confirm pricing & availability which I'm not expecting to have changed from my initial post, but it's always best to check these things first.

I will compile a list & will send u2u to each of you to confirm your requirements - if you want lights & haven't got a u2u by the end of today then either u2u me or drop me an email at russbost@googlemail.com

Cheers Russ

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Are the 5 3/4" ones 95mm deep? Or is that for the 7" lights?

Thanks

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Have had response from my supplier pricing is as already agreed & delivery should be rather quicker than I had originally suggested, if I get the order in later this week then lights should be delivered to me early in June which is a bit of a bonus.

I will be responding to all u2u's later today with regard to collecting deposits etc. so if you haven't heard from me by end of today please give me a chase up

Cheers Russ

That'd be great as I might be able to get them fitted before I go away at the end of June.

Just to keep everyone in the loop, I am waiting for just one deposit so I've put the order in today & payment has been made to the supplier. As soon as I get a confirmed delivery date will post on here.

What are the wiring terminals on them. Side/dip/main/earth, plus an ignition switched live for the DLR's?

Sorry Russ only just seen my u2u.
Have sent paypal deposit, hope it is not to late!
Regards John

No Probs, John I have your deposit & you are included

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What are the wiring terminals on them. Side/dip/main/earth, plus an ignition switched live for the DLR's?

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Just had email to confirm the lights are on their way, they left yesterday, probably with me tomorrow assuming no customs holdups - anyone who wants them quickly start getting your pennies ready!

Lights are here & have tested, all looks good! I will be sending individual u2u or email depending how you've made contact previously.

Balance to pay is £126.95 (199 + 7.95 P & P, less 80 deposit) so anyone who wants to get ahead of the game, just make payment by same method as previously & let me know payment has been made, should be able to ship from today onwards.

Paymentmade and shipping address sent via u2u.
Thanks of sorting so quick.

Just when I though I'd cracked my "pre-tour to do list" and it just got longer again

Looking forward to receiving these Russ

Ready and waiting please send req to snodhurst @yahoo.co.uk
Can see it being a race to who can these fitted and working first

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Ready and waiting please send req to snodhurst @yahoo.co.uk
Can see it being a race to who can these fitted and working first

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Ready and waiting please send req to snodhurst @yahoo.co.uk
Can see it being a race to who can these fitted and working first

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Mine have arrived. They look great and I'm working out how to mod my loom for the DRLs. Fortunately I had the foresight to put spare ingnition fed fuse in my fusebox.

Only issue I can see is it needs the DRL on for the indicators (and hazard) to work. So either the original indicator stays or I have no front hazards with ignition off. Really wanted rid of the original indicators as the bulb holders are crap.
Also you need separate sidelights unless you're happy to just rely on the DRLs.

I must admit I had assumed people would probably keep existing indicators & use these simply to be more visible, 7's due usually appear to carry an invisibility cloak! I guess you could add a separate feed from a permanently live switch to put the DRL's on if wanting to use hazards without ignition on & without separate indicators - does that make sense?

Decided in the end it wouldn't really be an issue. I would leave the original indicators except I'm sick of taking the covers off to clean the crap terminals.

PS.. I'm still head scratching on the other thing we discussed

Just picked mine up from next door, look really nice.

As the previous poster has noted, I wanted to use the orange indicator part but not bother with the DLR but found the same issue, you have to power the DLR to use the indicators. Even having them both on the same lead means the white DLR part blips on power up so I cant do that.

I didn't even think about the issue with hazards if the DLR isn't on with the ignition.

But I still love the main lights and might end up having my side light as the DLR and no indicators using original ones as normal.

I tested the lights with the included can bus lead, is this needed if my car hasn't got can bus? They plug in but I didn't want to test them without it incase of smoke

now just to either source some nice smooth housing for them or 3D print my own off.

Does anyone know the amp draw of these units? would be nice if its less of a drain on the tiny bike battery I use.

PS, what country uses the rotating DLR function?

Cheers

Not sure why the lead is labelled Canbus, I assume because it has some Canbus trickery so can be used with Canbus systems, but the supplier hasn't given me any information on that, I've emailed them for further information. Just use it with the Canbus lead as per instructions supplied:-

The main blue/green H4 male plug will fit directly to your existing loom if you already have an H4 female plug as standard on your loom. If you have any doubt as to the wiring, when looking at the H4 male plug with the pins facing toward you the LH terminal is Earth, the top terminal is feed (+Ve) for dip/low beam & the RH terminal is feed (+Ve) for main/high beam. The Halo ring will not work if this earth terminal is not connected as the light is not earthed elsewhere.

Red, Brown, Green wires - The halo ring needs a +Ve feed for the other functions (indicator etc. of the Halo ring to work) – to connect as a daytime running light (DRL) connect the red wire to an ignition live +Ve supply, such as from the ignition ACC terminal. When connected to a +Ve supply (with main plug earthed) the Halo ring will come on & gradually increase in brightness, when it reaches full brightness, the light will run in a chasing ring around the Halo – this may not be legal in your country, check your local regulations - to make the Halo display with just a static ring connect the Brown wire to +Ve AS WELL AS the red wire.
The green wire is for the indicator feed, simply connect to the +Ve feed for the indicator (Note red wire MUST already have a +Ve feed & main plug must be earthed for the amber Halo ring to work). With the DRL already on, when the indicator is flashing white Halo will go off & the amber Halo will flash, as soon as indicator is disconnected (after approx. 0.5 sec) the white DRL Halo will come back on

Cheers russ.

Just done some testing and the amp draw is really nice.

Comparing to a Halford 55/60w bulb which draws 4.4a and 4.9a the led lights draws 1.8a and 2.6a which is a nice power saving on your battery. housing starts to warm up on full beam after a few minutes to a luke warm heat. DONT LOOK INTO THE BEAM, trying to type this blind.

Hi Russ,

Could you check to see if they are fitting in a standard 5.75" housing.
Mine are about 3mm too small across the lens aperture with these lamps, they do work with a standard 5.75/par46 lamp ok.

Pics(The first pic is my existing lights)
If you have some housings that are compatible, could you let me know (bottom mounted, freestanding).

For use with hazards, a couple of diodes from the feed of the hazard relay and the drl feed to the red+brown wires will activate the circuit without backfeeding anything, i think electronic relays might be needed to get a correct flash rate though.

Dave

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Hi Russ,

Could you check to see if they are fitting in a standard 5.75" housing.
Mine are about 3mm too small across the lens aperture with these lamps, they do work with a standard 5.75/par46 lamp ok.

Pics(The first pic is my existing lights)
If you have some housings that are compatible, could you let me know (bottom mounted, freestanding).

For use with hazards, a couple of diodes from the feed of the hazard relay and the drl feed to the red+brown wires will activate the circuit without backfeeding anything, i think electronic relays might be needed to get a correct flash rate though.

Dave

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Further to the solution proposed above re the plastic buckets on Fury type vehicles, one of you clever LCB chappies has come up with the following solution, which gets the lights clear of the buckets without needing to cut them & by lowering the lights a touch keeps them clear of the perspex covers

"I've made longer mounting/adjusting screws and re-tapped the holes 10mm lower so that the lamps fit further forward and a bit lower to clear the covers. All quite involved and time consuming but it'll work. Not simple though"

My apologies that the lights are not a dead straightforward fit in all mounting types, but I guess there is a fair bit of variation out there

Just a thought on the Indicator issue. Has anyone tried sending 12v to the override DRL wire (the one that stops the rotating light sequence) and then tried the indicators? Maybe this is a perm 12v wire and the DRL wire is the 'on' wire?

I will do so tonight, I cannot work out why any manufactured would make a lighting circuit that doesn't let you use the indicators/hazards without the ignition on.

All fitted and working using a second side light so it stay to letter of the law and complies with vosa

I've had a measure up, they are 138.5mm across the lens, the mounting ring aperture is 135mm across, and my other lamps are 134.8mm across the lens.
The lamp fits rearward into the housing fine, and once opened up should be ok in the mounting ring.
I don't fancy trying a dremel on its own to remove that much material & get a good shape, i'm going to try getting the rings into the lathe to open up the aperture. I can clamp a die grinder into the tool holder, and manually turn the chuck, i don't think i can clamp safely enough to use the lathe itself.

I would like to know if there is a housing they will fit in with no mods, as mine are getting to the end of their lives and i would like to avoid having to do this again

Dave

Mine are in. Not as simple as I would have hoped due to the profile of the back of the lamp. A few mods to the mountings required as Rus quoted earlier.

Great result in the end...





More pictures HERE

All sorted!

I opened up the rings on the lathe, both to the same size, however i didn't measure up the other lamp which turned out to be 2mm smaller than the first one, so i have ended up with a larger gap on one lamp.

I have wired up the drl as sidelamps for the moment, and have left the indicator wiring for when i change my cycle wings over the winter.

They have a good dip beam brightness, and the main beam has a good spread with no obvious dead spots.
Definately better than any H4 lamps i have had previously, and comparable with hid lamps.

Dave

Used my car at night for the first time this week must say very nice to drive with and nice to see the reaction of other people to them