flak monkey
|
| posted on 24/3/05 at 11:36 PM |
|
|
quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
Folks, i think we all need to be careful what we say here. Darren has been threatened with legal action. Its quite possible this web site and the
poster could also be threatened if we post views that are libelous.
I dont think anyone has posted anything libelous yet?
It would be interesting to know why he has been threatened with legal action though...
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
|
|
|
|
|
MikeR
|
| posted on 24/3/05 at 11:40 PM |
|
|
I wasn't suggesting anyone had, just that we should be careful and respect other peoples rights - irrespective of if we agree with them or not.
I'd hate to lose this forum because of one or two people accidentally say or imply something that is seen as illegal in a court of law.
|
|
|
flak monkey
|
| posted on 24/3/05 at 11:44 PM |
|
|
quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
I wasn't suggesting anyone had, just that we should be careful and respect other peoples rights - irrespective of if we agree with them or not.
I'd hate to lose this forum because of one or two people accidentally say or imply something that is seen as illegal in a court of law.
I totally agree. It is within anyones rights to protect their intellectual property (whether it be designs or words), how far you take this protection
is upto the owner, but there are limits i think as to what constitutes an infringement of intellectual property rights (as it seems this is what it
all boils down to).
David 
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
|
|
|
Triton
|
| posted on 25/3/05 at 08:17 AM |
|
|
cateringvan..... does that mean the CSR is their new Chip-Shop-Racer .....
|
|
|
Northy
|
| posted on 25/3/05 at 09:07 AM |
|
|
Remember when Intel used to name their processors '386' '486' etc, and then changed them to 'names'? I heard this
was because you couldn't copyright a number, but not certain...
[Edited on 25/3/05 by Northy]
Graham
Website under construction. Help greatfully received as I don't really know what I'm doing!
"If a man says something in the woods and there are no women there, is he still wrong?"
Built 2L 8 Valve Vx Powered Avon
|
|
|
MikeR
|
| posted on 25/3/05 at 09:14 AM |
|
|
American laws are different to Europen laws. I believe Caterham have settled a long running difference of opinion with BMW. They now agree to share
the trademark on the seven (not sure if its the number or word).
|
|
|
dozracing
|
| posted on 25/3/05 at 11:16 AM |
|
|
Wow, i leave you lot for a few hours and suddenly its the longest running thread of the week.
To be fair they have asked me not to use the word seven or 7 when relating to a 2 seater clubmans style car. What amuses me is that they don't
have the balls to call me and ask, they just decide to let lawyers do it for them.
Also how do F27 get away with it? And whats the description of a clubmans 2 seater sports car? Isn't AK427 a problem for them, how do you
describe a clubmans style car.
With regard to Westfield, the court action favoured Westfield in the end and it was them who made the big noise about it, because it basically
promoted their products, and made the industry take note that Caterham felt threatened by Westfield and their products.
If they decide to persue me, then good luck to them, i'll gain more than them in the long run. They can't have what i haven't got
and it'll only serve to promote my products.
Funnily enough they haven't complianed yet about the W7DE, but only about the F1-7 (the CSR competitor).
Kind regards,
Darren
|
PLEASE NOTE: This user is a trader who has not signed up for the LocostBuilders registration scheme. If this post is advertising a commercial product or service, please report it by clicking here.
|
Deckman001
|
| posted on 25/3/05 at 03:16 PM |
|
|
Darren, how about F1 (6+1) 
Jason
|
|
|
MikeR
|
| posted on 25/3/05 at 04:31 PM |
|
|
Darren, it is possible that Caterham don't know about the action. It wouldn't surprise me if the legal team had a brief to go after anyone
who infringed the trademark and that is what they are doing.
As i think i implied before, be very careful if you go up against them. I'd put money on you loosing and us all loosing your input into this
community as the legal action bankrupts you.
|
|
|
flak monkey
|
| posted on 25/3/05 at 04:35 PM |
|
|
According to that trademark search they dont hold any copyright/trademark on the '7', only on 'Seven'. (Though the badge will
be a trademark) That doesnt make it wrong to use the number 7 when describing a 7 car....surely! 
As said...their lawyers will be highly paid, unless you know what you are doing, or have a lawyer friend, i wouldnt suggest battling with them. Maybe
just come to some arrangement...
[Edited on 25/3/05 by flak monkey]
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
|
|
|
JonBowden
|
| posted on 25/3/05 at 04:54 PM |
|
|
Sometime ago I developed some software. I discussed copyright with my lawyer. He explained that if I simply put copyright and trademark notices on all
software and documentation then that was sufficient without registering the trademark. If this is correct then Caterham may indeed have claim to the
"7" digit when applied to this type of car.
Jon
|
|
|
Peteff
|
| posted on 25/3/05 at 04:55 PM |
|
|
Intel used to name their processors '386' '486' etc
Someone preempted them by registering the name '586', that's why it was changed to the pentium rather than buy it back for an
exhorbitant sum.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
|
|
|
theconrodkid
|
| posted on 25/3/05 at 05:20 PM |
|
|
what about the "austin 7",that predated lotus by quite some time and later was used on a mini (without pas)
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
|
|
|
MikeR
|
| posted on 25/3/05 at 05:58 PM |
|
|
Just like the 7 series BMW - its a completely different car and a person who's interested in the '7' type car would not mistake the
austin 7 or a BMW 7 series for that car - hence not an issue.
(i believe - this is all based on memories of conversations on the se7ens list)
|
|
|
pbura
|
| posted on 25/3/05 at 06:46 PM |
|
|
I wonder if part of the appeal of the original Lotus 7 for you Britishers was because of the Austin Seven and some of the specials built from it.
[img]http://www.vieux-volants.com/Galerie%20photos/Swiss%20Classic%20British%20Car%[/img]
Pete
|
|
|
pbura
|
| posted on 25/3/05 at 06:50 PM |
|
|
Oops, dodgy picture link:
 
Rescued attachment DSCN1941_small1.jpg
Pete
|
|
|
kipper
|
| posted on 25/3/05 at 07:26 PM |
|
|
what a pretty austin 3point 5 times two
|
|
|
Triton
|
| posted on 25/3/05 at 08:04 PM |
|
|
Start using..."21" instead.....that will wind them up......
|
|
|
flak monkey
|
| posted on 25/3/05 at 08:07 PM |
|
|
3 times better?
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
|
|
|
Triton
|
| posted on 25/3/05 at 08:08 PM |
|
|
No the 21 was a flop and somebody in Surrey made it.......not naming names etc.
Nowt new about the early Lotus anyway .....they copied the Buckler which came before the Lotus 6 n 7
|
|
|
flak monkey
|
| posted on 25/3/05 at 08:11 PM |
|
|
Not heard of it? Out of interest...got any weblinks to any info about it?
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
|
|
|
Triton
|
| posted on 25/3/05 at 08:19 PM |
|
|
It looks sort of like a Maxda MX5 only the Mazda sold well to those that messed with hair.....
|
|
|
Triton
|
| posted on 25/3/05 at 08:21 PM |
|
|
Try looking for Caterham 21.
|
|
|
MikeR
|
| posted on 25/3/05 at 08:25 PM |
|
|
I believe the view was that the 21 didn't sell because .... its target market was taken by a little car called the Elise that was released just
after the 21 and had wind up windows.
|
|
|
flak monkey
|
| posted on 25/3/05 at 08:26 PM |
|
|
Looks strangely like a Porsche 911/924 from the front. And an old bmw Z3 from the rear....
[Edited on 25/3/05 by flak monkey]
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
|
|
|
