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Micke Fredriksson

posted on 25/11/04 at 07:31 PM Reply With Quote
The T42 turbo trike design.

Hi! This is my first post at this fine forum, and I hope you´ll understand my poor English!!

If you are interested in another homemade tricycle - Here´s my "T42 turbo"!!
It´s a trike based on a suzuki GSX-R 1000 -01 motorcycle that I have built a turbokit to.
The engine power is 280hp, and it weighs 400kg (360kg whithout body).. = 700hp/tone!!


Specifications:
Type of vehicle: Treewheeled motorcycle with body.
Engine: Suzuki GSX-R 1000 -01 TURBO.
Dimentions:
Total length: 410cm
Total width: 210cm
Wheelbase: 310cm
Hight: 105cm
Engine power: 280bhp, ~190nm.
Suspension:
Front: Öhlins shockabsorbers, Pushrod. RC: at 100mm. = 25% antiroll.
Rear: Rebuilt Suzuki absorber.
Turnradius: 13,7m
Steering: 1,9 turns (side-side)
Maximal lateral acc: 1,55G (before tipping over).
Passengers: 2
Performance: 25km/h - 200km/h= 9sek.(driver + passenger and wheelspin to 180km/h )
Topspeed: 300km/h.
Seats: TILLETT racing T250 seats.
Airodynamics: AirForce racing rear wing- Gives 186kg DF (down force) at 300km/h.



It´s VERY WIDE!!!



This is the frontbrake calippers- HISPEC : Ultralihgt 4 cortina lug. Only 900gram each!!






A couple of friends trying to get a feel how it would be to drive this "monster" .






This is the fueltank made in aluminium- Rather komplicated shape.



This is the 2:nd fueltank (under construktion) with the 2:nd fuelpump (suzuki orginal).






This is the aluminium airintake (plenum) with suzuki funnels inside.




Oilsump welded to privent oilstarvation when cornering.







The Airintake and the 2:nd fueltank in place. Note the upper fuelrail wired to the (MegaSquirt) supplimentary injektion system- add fuel at turbo boost.




Here you can see the (IC) intercooler..




Oilcooler, right behind the passengers head- hot????



Wireing and fuel pipes.



The main fuelpump and filter.



Brakecalipper mounted om the custombuilt Ford scorpio 2,9 uppright and 280mm rotors.. No paint so far.



This is the PushRod front suspention. With very firm rebound, this öhlins shockabsorbers sutes this trike perfektly.
The wishbones geomety makes 25% antiroll, which means that I ride without a antirollbar, this trike doesn´t roll at all!!




The exhaust system made by polished stainless steel, with Lambda sond.
It´s a BOMZ racing silencer- JAPAN style Very nice sound!! Bling bling..











This is my bodyscetch.. Hope you likes it..




This is my fuelsystem, It works very well

[Edited on 25/11/04 by Micke Fredriksson]

[Edited on 25/11/04 by Micke Fredriksson]





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scoobyis2cool

posted on 25/11/04 at 07:56 PM Reply With Quote
Hey, welcome to the forum!

That looks like an awesome piece of kit you've got there, looks like you're well into the build as well, very impressive! Looking at your avatar it looks as though you've taken it for a spin, got any videos to tempt us with? Would love to see 700bhp/ton in action!

Good luck with the rest of the build...

Pete

Edit: Ooh, hold on, just found the link to your video, if I can get it to load...

[Edited on 25/11/04 by scoobyis2cool]





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Micke Fredriksson

posted on 25/11/04 at 08:36 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scoobyis2cool
Hey, welcome to the forum!

That looks like an awesome piece of kit you've got there, looks like you're well into the build as well, very impressive! Looking at your avatar it looks as though you've taken it for a spin, got any videos to tempt us with? Would love to see 700bhp/ton in action!

Good luck with the rest of the build...

Pete

Edit: Ooh, hold on, just found the link to your video, if I can get it to load...

[Edited on 25/11/04 by scoobyis2cool]




Thanks!! I can post some building pics. of the body too..
If someone else missed the film!!


Movie-Test ride "T42 turbo" http://media.savarturbo.se/micke_fredriksson/the_trikeride_20041110.avi





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SeaBass

posted on 25/11/04 at 08:40 PM Reply With Quote
Very nice build Micke. Are you doing the aluminium welding yourself?? If so top job. Did you build a seven as well beforehand??

Cheers






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Micke Fredriksson

posted on 25/11/04 at 09:49 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SeaBass
Very nice build Micke. Are you doing the aluminium welding yourself?? If so top job. Did you build a seven as well beforehand??

Cheers



Thanks!!! The seven in the top picture is a friends.. I have helpt building another seven with a BMW M10 turbo engine (350hp)..
BUT, I have built several other projekt (like a Lancia A112 Abarth with a yamaha R1 engine... A Volvo PV 544 with a B234 16v twin-turbo engine "400hp"..... aso.)

Sadly I´m not the alu whelder. Because I haven´t got a TIG. I made all the alu construktion, and then I taped it together so "Ludde" could weld it... He´s Very good as you can see!!!

Your seven looks very nice too!!
Anything else you wondering about???

[Edited on 25/11/04 by Micke Fredriksson]





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Cita

posted on 25/11/04 at 09:51 PM Reply With Quote
That's a very nice piece of workmanship!!!
Well done Micke!!
Love to see some pic's of the bodywork(couldn't get the video link working)

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scoobyis2cool

posted on 25/11/04 at 10:10 PM Reply With Quote
The video link wouldn't work for me either, so I right-clicked it and said Save Target As, and saved it to my hard drive

Pete





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JoelP

posted on 25/11/04 at 10:27 PM Reply With Quote
thats awesome man. absolutely cracking.






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SeaBass

posted on 25/11/04 at 11:17 PM Reply With Quote
I've now watched the video. What a machine. Pretty scary stuff with all that power and so
little weight. That rear wheel seems to have a mind of its own. Have you had the thing around a track yet to work out how to lay the power down on the road??

Cheers

[Edited on 25/11/04 by SeaBass]






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Micke Fredriksson

posted on 26/11/04 at 09:13 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SeaBass
I've now watched the video. What a machine. Pretty scary stuff with all that power and so
little weight.
That rear wheel seems to have a mind of its own. Have you had the thing around a track yet to work out how to lay the power down on the road??

Cheers

[Edited on 25/11/04 by SeaBass]


The rear wheel "was" a MC-tyre. I tryed to make all sorts of turns, just to sens how it feels when cornering.
But the MC-tyre was to soft in the "side walls", so I got a nasty "snakey" slidy feel in speeds over 80km/h, even though I was not slyding .
And then theres the friktion problem !!! I will mount a 17" car tyre in the rear till the next summer .

[Edited on 26/11/04 by Micke Fredriksson]





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ceebmoj

posted on 26/11/04 at 09:17 AM Reply With Quote
looks very cool,

have you started on youer body work yet ? if so do you have any pics of that?

downloding the vidio now

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Micke Fredriksson

posted on 26/11/04 at 09:50 AM Reply With Quote
Here´s some pics. on my body work ..
The pics. are taken from 1,5mounth till for 3weeks ago..

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Here I´m welding om a TEMPORARY steel plate- so I have a smoth side panel I can make a mould of.

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Am I building a BOAT?????

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It´s starts to form a nose

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Air scoop.

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Exhaust..

[Edited on 26/11/04 by Micke Fredriksson]

[Edited on 26/11/04 by Micke Fredriksson]





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ned

posted on 26/11/04 at 09:56 AM Reply With Quote
we like





beware, I've got yellow skin

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Micke Fredriksson

posted on 26/11/04 at 10:27 AM Reply With Quote
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JoelP

posted on 26/11/04 at 06:32 PM Reply With Quote
that last picture looks like the spaceship in the hanger, in the old film 'navigator'!






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Micke Fredriksson

posted on 26/11/04 at 06:40 PM Reply With Quote
yea, Without the front wheels, I get a airoplane feeling when I stand besides the nose.. I thing it´s gonna be very airodynamic.. What do you think?





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MikeRJ

posted on 26/11/04 at 10:43 PM Reply With Quote
Wow, simply stunning! You must have put a serious amount of time (and money!) into that, and it shows.
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Micke Fredriksson

posted on 26/11/04 at 11:29 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
Wow, simply stunning! You must have put a serious amount of time (and money!) into that, and it shows.


Ohh, thank you!!
Well, I have built this projekt in 1year and 3month so far.. it took 10month till testdrive (video at my signatur)..
Yea, money..... .. I sold my earlier (lancia A112 abarth R1) motorbike engined projekt, so I could afford the main parts to this projekt.

Lancia abarth R1:

Lancia R1 at midlanda motorpark
Lancia R1 at midlanda motorpark






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JoelP

posted on 27/11/04 at 12:08 AM Reply With Quote
just got the video working... that looks fun.






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chrisf

posted on 2/12/04 at 02:29 AM Reply With Quote
Hate bring this up...

I've wasted a workday thinking about this three wheeler. Looks increadibly fun. But how do these things handle on the road? This trike does 1.5 Gs! Does it tip over when the limit is exceded or does the rear wheel slide like a regular car?

This progect really sparked the curiosity.

--Chris

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Micke Fredriksson

posted on 2/12/04 at 11:15 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by chrisf
I've wasted a workday thinking about this three wheeler. Looks increadibly fun. But how do these things handle on the road? This trike does 1.5 Gs! Does it tip over when the limit is exceded or does the rear wheel slide like a regular car?

This progect really sparked the curiosity.

--Chris


Hi! Yes, in teory this design could handle 1,5Gs. Under my testrun I hadn´t changed to a car tyre in rear, so I couldn´t stress it in the corners (I got a snakelike feel in the rear- without sliding bacause the biketyre have very soft sides.. ) And when the limit is exeded the threewheeler would start to tip over. BUT, to reach so high G force I must have racingslicks. The friktion of a regular tyre is to small. And there is another thing you must add to the cornering process=
All the weight transfer is on the right frontwheel (left turn)- who lowering the friktion (hope you understand). The rear wheel doesn´t take any weight transfer when cornering- just the G force lateral. So if I should have 50/50 weight in the trike, it would get a larger rate of slipangle to the front right tyre (left turn)- with makes the frontend to slide earlier (understeer), BUT I have two front wheels that helps to add friktion. In theory a trike with 50/50 in weight, is rather neutral in cornering. But if we makes it "rear heavy", it would oversteer.
Mine T42 is "front heavy" 60/40 f/r. So if the theory is real- it would understeer if I stress it real hard - exacly as I want. Don´t want a oversteering trike in 250km/h .
You can allways MAKE it oversteer- with 280hp under your right foot...

It´s rather fun to answer questions!! MORE!!

[Edited on 2/12/04 by Micke Fredriksson]

[Edited on 2/12/04 by Micke Fredriksson]

[Edited on 2/12/04 by Micke Fredriksson]

[Edited on 2/12/04 by Micke Fredriksson]





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mangogrooveworkshop

posted on 2/12/04 at 01:37 PM Reply With Quote
Speechless Delboy hyper drive!

I like the chainsaw shapeing what!! noise and styreen everywhere!






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macspeedy

posted on 2/12/04 at 06:10 PM Reply With Quote
1 word wow!
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Micke Fredriksson

posted on 2/12/04 at 08:56 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks for all the kind words!!
I have sprayed the body plug with putty (filler) so I get a smother surface to work with. I use a Wall putty with water base. Very easy to form!! There´s only one problem- I have to wait several hours before I can sand it.... If I use a 2K putty, the mold base plastic will melt... ..





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spunky

posted on 4/12/04 at 08:22 AM Reply With Quote
inspiring

Thats a fantastic machine Micke.
And exactly the sort of thing I've been tossing around in my head (and paper)
I have the remains of my GSX600 lying about and wanted to use it in a trike setup. So I'm now inspired to crack on with the project.
A scaled down and slightly less brutal version of your trike would be great.

Top job mate.

John





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But the cautious man does not live at all.....

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