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Avoneer - 17/12/03 at 10:00 PM

Hi,
Just finished my lovely flat plywood dash.
Someone please give me a clue as how to add a lovely 19mm radius to the bottom edge - someone must have done it!
Cheers,
Pat...


givemethebighammer - 17/12/03 at 10:23 PM

I was thinking of gluing several more layers of ply on the bottom edge of the dash then radiusing the bottom edge to 19mm with a rasp / file / sandpaper.

See attached


Avoneer - 17/12/03 at 10:36 PM

Cheers mate.
I like the bits of ply and rasp idea though as the bottom edge of my dash has a few curves. Brilliant idea - bloody simple as well.
I was coming up with a thousand difficult ways of achieving the same radi! (apart from this one) (doh).
Pat...

[Edited on 17/12/03 by Avoneer]


wicket - 18/12/03 at 10:03 PM

Made the dash from 10mm MDF with bottom edge built up with 2 pieces of 19mm radius wood quadrant glued to the bottom edge. Couple of pitures in the photo archive.

Eventually covering with expanded vinyl from Woolies.


Simon - 19/12/03 at 09:58 AM

Pat,

Have you thought of making it in fibreglass.

I've made all my panels in the same way without using moulds.

For the dash, I marked out the shape I wanted, and for the areas where the radius goes, cut a slot in the MDF base (with a jigsaw). Into the slot I pit sltrips of aluminium (easy to bend) and with a wooden former, and plaster (of paris) formed the radius.

Then lay us f/glass. Remove a day or two later, sand and paint/cover

ATB

Simon

PS - for details on using f/glass see Steve Gusterson's site www.locostbuilder.co.uk - very helpful

[Edited on 19/12/03 by Simon]


David Jenkins - 19/12/03 at 10:19 AM

I ended up making a soft edge for my dash - this means that the radius only needs to be greater than 5mm, instead of 19mm.

I can post details, if interested...

David


Spyderman - 19/12/03 at 05:38 PM

For those using MDF or Ply you could use a Router for the radius.
I'm sure you must know someone with one.
At a push you could always buy the router bit and use it in a bench mounted drill, or a pillar drill.


RoadkillUK - 19/12/03 at 06:40 PM

Spyderman, that's what I did.
I made the dash with 10mm MDF then glued another piece of 10mm MDF about 2" wide along the bottom of the dash at the back, then routed the front edge, then covered the front with foam and vinyl.
Of course there are a couple of pics of the finished item on my website but I don't think any of them show the radius.


Avoneer - 21/12/03 at 11:52 AM

As my dash has curves along the bottom edge (to clear legs) it all becomes a little complicated. I have the bottom edge about 20mm thick with some ply and am ready to radius the edge - just think it will be bloody hard work with a rasp. I have a router, but can't find a "rounding over" bit anywhere to give me 19mm radius. I have a chamfer bit that would start me off, but still looks like a load of work - anyone have any easy solutions???

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Northy - 21/12/03 at 12:05 PM

Attack it with a B&D Powerfile, or the rotozip?

Cheers


Mix - 22/12/03 at 10:05 AM

Avoneer

Trend supply a 19mm rounding over bit in either 12mm or 0.5 in shaft diameter, at £45:95 + vat pt. no. 46/17.

Axminster Power Tool supply a CMT cutter pt. no. 838990 with 0.5 in shaft for £33:29 inc vat.

These prices are a bit steep for a one off application. However as one of my other interests is woodworking I will be buying one in the near future and will be happy to assist anybody with their dash radius.

Mick


Chris Leonard - 22/12/03 at 11:15 AM

I made my dash out of UPVC - a bit of soffit we had left over when replacing the ones on the house. For the radius I used a piece of pipe lagging, glued on, with the vinyl covering it


Avoneer - 7/1/04 at 10:14 PM

Hi Guys,
Pogression:
2 layers of 19mm MDF, cut to required shape and bottom edge rounded off with a rasp - not to hard with MDF. Covered with cling film. 2 Layers of CSM, 2 days later "cracked" from wood and trimmed to fit. Tis only a prototype and my second go ever at fibreglassing. Will be good with 3 layers of CSM and covered in thin vinyl.
Cheers for all the help,
Pat... Rescued attachment Dash1.jpg
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Avoneer - 7/1/04 at 10:15 PM

You can't really appreciate the full 19mm curve from the pic, but I can - he he he. Rescued attachment Dash2.jpg
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Northy - 7/1/04 at 10:33 PM

Looking good

How much were they?


Avoneer - 7/1/04 at 10:44 PM

Hi G,
Pics don't do it justice.
Ordering some more resin etc. next week (pay day). Will swap a 3 layer dash blank for a copy of those vids (no, not those dirty ones, the other ones!).
Cheers
Pat...


Northy - 7/1/04 at 10:52 PM

Done (you have been! )

I'll get the wife on the case

Cheers


Nick Davison - 23/2/04 at 04:31 PM

This probably a bit late but when you lay up the dash place a piece of melamine on the face and clamp it down with G clamps. When I is released, and it will release without release agent or wax, it will leave a nice smooth surface. Now just replace the glass mat with carbon!
Nick


britishtrident - 6/3/04 at 03:09 PM

Use a "spokeshave" --- as originally originally used for making the spokes for artillery style wagon wheels.

It is a small 2 handed planning tool which you draw towards you --- gives terrific control and allows you to make edge radi and outside and (gentle) inside curves.


britishtrident - 12/3/04 at 08:12 PM

If vinyl convering the dash its easy to rubber "D" section intended for going round boat hulls.


tr - 14/3/04 at 10:42 AM

Just to hijak the topic...

I'm at a similar point in my build now and I'm unsire as to how I'm required to radius the dash..




How far round does the radius have to go? is it as A in the above picture or B? Can't see the point in following the radius right up the back as in A.

I'm using a fibreglass dash from MK, I've already backed it with ply to mkae it a bit stiffer, and I was thinking along the lines of building the bottom up with more ply and sanding it down the radius as someone else has suggested on here. Then a friend of mine came up with the idea of using some plastic pipe, cut and slotted over the bottom of the dash, as in the picture below.



Would that be SVA happy? I wasn't to sure because of the angle the pipe meets the dash.

Cheers

Tom


Fifer - 22/3/04 at 01:41 PM

Good pictures TR, I'm using a carbon dash with 10 mm U section rubber moulding on bottom edge, seems the way to go as the 19 mm doesnt come into play if the material is soft and has 5 mm curve (I think !)


GO - 22/3/04 at 02:36 PM

fifer, does the 5mm radius come in to play if the whole dash is padded, or will just the bottom edge being pliant be enough?


Fifer - 22/3/04 at 02:53 PM

Dont have my manual at hand here but the way I see it is the 19mm radius means the material it's made of wont mater. But if the bottom edge has "soft" material (like rubber / foam) the radius is 5 mm.
The face of the dash material is irrelivant as long as the projections are within spec (i.e. the 2.5 mm radius rule or where protrusion is less than 5mm from face)
All from memory so probably b***cks. There are so many ways to interprit the manual eh !, does my head in to be honest