Johneturbo
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 posted on 30/10/07 at 12:01 PM |
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Brake pipe flaring
Hey all
I'm trying to make a flare to fit into the master cylinder
but i just end up with a trumpet type flare, thats the wrong way around i need a mushroom type.
i'm using a draper 7 piece tool
am i doing something wrong
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stevec
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| posted on 30/10/07 at 12:06 PM |
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You need to go in with the Operation 1 tool or tip. That should give you a mushroom.
Steve.
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Peteff
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| posted on 30/10/07 at 01:20 PM |
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am i doing something wrong
Have you got the instructions? Leave a bit of pipe sticking up to the level of the shoulder on the 3/16" die, put the pip of the die into the
hole in the pipe then screw the handle down till it stops. Now unscrew it and unclamp and remove the die. That is a single flare. For a double just
remove the die and screw the point down the centre.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Bluemoon
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| posted on 30/10/07 at 02:22 PM |
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Hope you trying on a test peace.. else your going to run out of pipe!
Dan
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Johneturbo
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| posted on 30/10/07 at 02:28 PM |
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Thanks for the tips guys
i'm gona take a pic of what i want and what i'm getting! i just end up with a wide flare when i want a dome one
bluemoon my test piece is running out! just like my patience!
[Edited on 30/10/07 by Johneturbo]
[Edited on 30/10/07 by Johneturbo]
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02GF74
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| posted on 30/10/07 at 03:32 PM |
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if you have machine mart tool, like mine, then the instructions are incorrect.
to do single flare, as ^^^^ said.
for bracke pipe, I found about 6 mm sticking out, then press with the appropriate anvil to flare it out.
make sure you have the fitting on the pipe!!!
also make sure the pipe is vertical and the anvil fits properly - if pushed on at an angle, the centre piece can break off.
practice a cople of times on some pipe to get the a feel for it.
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Johneturbo
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| posted on 30/10/07 at 07:18 PM |
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Ok excuse the drawing, but it's the only way i can show what's happening
on the left is what i always get
on the right is what i need!
i'm inserting the anvil as per instructions, but its just flares open tha way way each time
 
Rescued attachment flare.jpg
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Johneturbo
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| posted on 31/10/07 at 08:23 PM |
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Come on guys my drawing isn't that bad....is it? 
this it the draper tool i'm using, it says double lap flares, does that mean it won't do the bell shape flare i need!?
Here
[Edited on 31/10/07 by Johneturbo]
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Macbeast
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| posted on 31/10/07 at 10:41 PM |
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Can't quite see from the picture what the Draper tool does but I would be surprised if it didn't do the mushroom flare you want.
Why don't you do what the seller suggests " if you require any assistance...." and call him ?
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Peteff
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| posted on 31/10/07 at 11:42 PM |
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it says double lap flares
It also says single which is what you want. That is exactly the same as my Machine Mart set and if you are following the instructions you can't
go wrong. As above, try phoning him for help.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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watsonpj
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| posted on 1/11/07 at 12:29 AM |
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What you need to do is make a Double flare as per the instructions but omit the last operation which will leave a mushroom
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Vindi_andy
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| posted on 1/11/07 at 11:14 AM |
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I know this may sound a daft question but you are using one of the dies fitted to the pipe first arent you not just winding the clamp straight in, the
dies being the little round things with a pip on one side. the pip goes into the open end of your pipe
Your drawing looks like you are either doing the 2 step operation where you only need to do the first step or you are not fitting a die to your pipe
before winding the clamp down
[Edited on 1/11/07 by Vindi_andy]
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Johneturbo
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| posted on 3/11/07 at 04:15 PM |
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I had a go with the fuel lines and got the result i wanted, so i must be doing something right, just seems when i try the brake pipe it flares the
wrong way everytime. i'm using the 3/16 pip.
i didn't buy the tool from that bloke on Ebay it was just to show you which one i'm using.
maybe the pip is worn down?
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