DorsetStrider
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| posted on 21/11/05 at 03:20 PM |
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Shortened drive shaft/prop shaft.
Ok guys here's a question for you...
I'm bored at work and have just been doing some ideal speculation again (always a dangerous thing for me to do) and got to thinking about
middy's.
Can anyone think of a reason that you couldn't use an engine gearbox set up from a front engined/rear wheel drive car and just shorten the
driveshaft/propshaft so that it's only say 6 or 12 inches long. thus making it possible to drop the engine and gear box in the car BEHIND the
driver?
I have no doubt that there is a reason you can't do this but I'm just curious to know what it is.
Who the f**K tightened this up!
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 21/11/05 at 03:37 PM |
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No technical reason at all, it would mean a VERY long car, the prop in my locost is only about 2'6"long, and the front of the engine is
about 5' ahead of me when seated
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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Humbug
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| posted on 21/11/05 at 06:03 PM |
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How about moving all the length where bonnet is for a front engined car to behind the seats, to get a Forward Control type of vehicle.
Here's one I didn't prepare earlier
 
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stevebubs
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| posted on 21/11/05 at 06:20 PM |
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Exactly what fisher do for the Menace....
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mark chandler
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| posted on 21/11/05 at 11:16 PM |
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No reason at all, I raced a landrover with 12" of suspension travel with a 12" propshaft.
All you need is deep yokes, set the axle and engine horizontal at mid way. and a deep slide. 
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Peteff
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| posted on 22/11/05 at 12:53 AM |
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How about moving all the length where bonnet is for a front engined car to behind the seats
You're forgetting that part of the gearbox is in the tunnel at the side of the drivers legs so if you put it all behind the cockpit it would add
that much more to it as well unless the front of the engine went beside the driver. You'd also need to get the clutch cable and gear linkage to
the rear as well, I think it would be an exercise in futility to produce an unusable, awful looking vehicle.
 
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yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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stevebubs
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| posted on 22/11/05 at 10:19 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
You're forgetting that part of the gearbox is in the tunnel at the side of the drivers legs so if you put it all behind the cockpit it would add
that much more to it as well unless the front of the engine went beside the driver. You'd also need to get the clutch cable and gear linkage to
the rear as well, I think it would be an exercise in futility to produce an unusable, awful looking vehicle.
Agreed that it is an issue for a CEC. Not a BEC, though
The Fisher Menace has the driver and passenger seats slightly offset with the engine behind the passenger.
For a CEC, just drop a FWD driveline in the back as per Mojo, Aeon, MK GTR etc
[Edited on 22/11/05 by stevebubs]
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Peteff
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| posted on 22/11/05 at 10:37 AM |
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Agreed that it is an issue for a CEC.
Which is what the thread is specifically about  . Also the prop is beside the driver not behind so that adds even more length, at this rate
you'll be sat in the nosecone with the steering wheel behind you. 
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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DorsetStrider
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| posted on 22/11/05 at 10:45 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
Which is what the thread is specifically about . Also the prop is beside the driver not behind so that adds even more length, at this rate
you'll be sat in the nosecone with the steering wheel behind you.
Hey now there's an idea... hands behind your back steering!!!! That would impress the boy racers!
You're absolutely right I was forgetting that the gear box is alongside the drivers legs. Think it would be easier to just find a FWD engine
gearbox to drop in the back.
Thanks anyway guys.
Who the f**K tightened this up!
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