tegwin
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| posted on 30/6/22 at 11:09 AM |
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Making high pressure PAS pipes
The saga of my 21 year old polo continues
I have done pretty well to be fair finding replacements for all the rusty parts, shes all under-sealed and ready to reassemble.
The stumbling block seems to be the high pressure PAS hose that links the pump to the rack.
Its a bent tubular item with two flexi sections. Mine has rusted through on the banjo weld.
There are endless aftermarket ones available in Germany..... unfortunately they are for the left hand drive variant which means the pipe isnt long
enough....
VW tell me they no longer make the part.
Can I make my own somehow? Could perhaps buy the LHD version and extend the steel tube?
This is what it should look like - Long steel pipe after short flexi
 
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But all the LHD ones are like this
 
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Any thoughts?
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 30/6/22 at 11:25 AM |
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I's usually just steel pipe with the correct fittings isn't it? A larger bore kunifer type brake pipe might do, though I'm not sure
about the materials mismatch or how to attach the fittings. But a hydraulics place will be able to knock these up really easily I would have
thought
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGJ5zC7lhz8
[Edited on 30/6/22 by coyoteboy]
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pewe
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| posted on 30/6/22 at 11:27 AM |
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Teg, can you not find a local agricultural engineering company to ask?
Strikes me they probably come up against odd-ball, unobtainable quite regularly.
Cheers, Pewe.
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nick205
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| posted on 30/6/22 at 01:56 PM |
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Have you tried GSF Car Parts?
https://www.gsfcarparts.com/
Often pretty helpful for parts for German, Swedish and French cars. They mave have New Old Stock of the item you need. They have plenty of locations
and do delivery as well. Helped me out with Peugeot 205 GTI parts (that Peugeot no longer make) before.
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tegwin
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| posted on 30/6/22 at 01:58 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by nick205
Have you tried GSF Car Parts?
https://www.gsfcarparts.com/
Often pretty helpful for parts for German, Swedish and French cars. They mave have New Old Stock of the item you need. They have plenty of locations
and do delivery as well. Helped me out with Peugeot 205 GTI parts (that Peugeot no longer make) before.
Oddly they can’t get me one either.
Weird really as the polo was pretty common in the uk. Maybe there weren’t that many with air con?!
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tegwin
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| posted on 30/6/22 at 02:35 PM |
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Hmm AN fittings might be an option. Hadn't thought of agricultural engineering. Will ask around.
Wonder if its possible to just extend a new LHD version.
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nick205
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| posted on 30/6/22 at 02:36 PM |
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Air Con must have been an expensive extra when the cars were new.
Peugeot 205 GTIs gave you an option for PAS or Air Con, but not both. Not enough space in the engine bay apparently.
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tegwin
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| posted on 30/6/22 at 02:44 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by nick205
Air Con must have been an expensive extra when the cars were new.
Peugeot 205 GTIs gave you an option for PAS or Air Con, but not both. Not enough space in the engine bay apparently.
I guess we take both for granted really... This is actually quite an odd polo as it has digital climate control and self leveling Xenon headlights.
Must have cost a fortune in 2001!
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nick205
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| posted on 30/6/22 at 03:08 PM |
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Certainly must have costa whack brand new.
Digital climate control would have been an executive saloon feature back then.
Self levelling lights seems very elaborate for a hatchback too. Understandable on a large estate or a car that will be used for towing.
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nick205
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| posted on 30/6/22 at 03:59 PM |
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A thought on the PAS pipe, if you have a friendly garage you could ask them what they'd do. Must be something garages come up against.
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indykid
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| posted on 30/6/22 at 06:09 PM |
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I expect the banjo will be brazed on rather than welded. If you have access to oxyacetylene, or maybe even a MAPP brazing torch, you might be able to
knock the banjo off the end. Then you can assess the damage to the pipe and either cut and extend the pipe (sleeve and braze or butt join with tig),
or just braze it back on with some filler over the hole.
It's 'high pressure' in power steering terms, but it's quite piffling in industrial hydraulics terms. You may struggle to find
someone who would warrant their work modifying what you have though...
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Dingz
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| posted on 30/6/22 at 10:04 PM |
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Could you convert it to manual?
Years ago I worked for a company supplying pas assemblies to various companies including Nissan and Lotus. The hoses were very specialised, some of
the fluids could be quite aggressive. I guess you could get a company to make something up that would work, the steering feel may be a bit different
and hose life could be compromised.
Phoned the local ramblers club today, but the bloke who answered just
went on and on.
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