jossey
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| posted on 16/9/13 at 06:25 PM |
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dropped a boll....
So after rebuilding the front of the tiger from the crash.
I got everything done, including the new bones provided by Mac (snakebelly)
So I started setting up the camber etc and I noticed I could not get the the camber into negative numbers......
Well after stripping it all down and getting angry at 9pm last night it turns out the wishbone brackets I bought are incorrect. the bolt hole is 13mm
higher than it should be which pushes the top of the upright out and the bottom wishbone too high and it messed everything.
So here is my mistake.
 
NewwishbonebracketDJ
New wishbones bolted in. I tried to set the set the camber up. Fully adjusted even with the draglink bolt removed left 1-2 degrees positive camber.
SOMTHING NOT RIGHT 6pm (cold sweats start)
After checking everything out and the tiger book for wishbone locations (checked and are right)
I noticed the wishbone brackets I bought are the 44mm locost ones bent to the 38mm size so the hole is 13mm too high meaning the top is pushed out by
13mm
so I unbolted the wishbone and pushed it in by 13mm and then un screwed the drag link and SORTED.. SO i just need to strip the brackets off and get
the right ones.
 
newbracketrightposition
So mac is going to sort me some brackets and ill have to cut it all off and start again with the brackets.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhh
David
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Thanks
David Johnson
Building my tiger avon slowly but surely.
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slingshot2000
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| posted on 16/9/13 at 09:49 PM |
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Did the photos have to be life size ???
Regards
Jon
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chrism
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| posted on 16/9/13 at 09:53 PM |
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Should the brackets not be a bit lower aswell. I'm sure on a locost the top wishbones are lower at the chassis end than at the upright end which
also helps the give the correct changes in camber for when the body rolls aswell.
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jossey
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| posted on 17/9/13 at 07:01 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by chrism
Should the brackets not be a bit lower aswell. I'm sure on a locost the top wishbones are lower at the chassis end than at the upright end which
also helps the give the correct changes in camber for when the body rolls aswell.
Not on the tiger they have to be level due the width of the chassis they are as tiger designed then.
Sorry about the life size pictures
Thanks
David Johnson
Building my tiger avon slowly but surely.
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 17/9/13 at 08:50 AM |
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You could slot the holes in the brackets and then weld washers in the appropriate places to locate the bolt.
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jossey
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| posted on 17/9/13 at 04:17 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
You could slot the holes in the brackets and then weld washers in the appropriate places to locate the bolt.
Ye mac mentioned that but given the extra work to do it right I just Makes to sort it properly my car is still not gonna be ready for at least 6
months so why botch it......
Ill bite the bullet
Thanks
David Johnson
Building my tiger avon slowly but surely.
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russbost
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| posted on 17/9/13 at 06:12 PM |
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The tube for the top joint looks very long, could you not simply take 10mm off the end of it & finish up with the same result for a lot less
hassle?
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jossey
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| posted on 17/9/13 at 08:20 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by russbost
The tube for the top joint looks very long, could you not simply take 10mm off the end of it & finish up with the same result for a lot less
hassle?
Maybe....
Thanks
David Johnson
Building my tiger avon slowly but surely.
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 21/9/13 at 10:12 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by russbost
The tube for the top joint looks very long, could you not simply take 10mm off the end of it & finish up with the same result for a lot less
hassle?
That is going to change the suspension geometry (i.e. shortened top wishbone mounted further out from chassis), though whether it will make any
noticeable difference on the road is debatable.
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russbost
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| posted on 21/9/13 at 12:24 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
quote:
Originally posted by russbost
The tube for the top joint looks very long, could you not simply take 10mm off the end of it & finish up with the same result for a lot less
hassle?
That is going to change the suspension geometry (i.e. shortened top wishbone mounted further out from chassis), though whether it will make any
noticeable difference on the road is debatable.
Agreed & if it was a race car, it might make a difference (might be better, who knows), on the road I would be absolutely amazed if there was any
noticeable difference at all, & again, might even be better, 7 clone suspension is far from perfect!
I no longer run Furore Products or Furore Cars Ltd, but would still highly recommend them for Acewell dashes, projector headlights, dominator
headlights, indicators, mirrors etc, best prices in the UK! Take a look at http://www.furoreproducts.co.uk/ or find more parts on Ebay, user names
furoreltd & furoreproducts, discounts available for LCB users.
Don't forget Stainless Steel Braided brake hoses, made to your exact requirements in any of around 16 colours.
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/furoreproducts/m.html?_dmd=1&_ipg=50&_sop=12&_rdc=1
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snakebelly
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| posted on 21/9/13 at 01:43 PM |
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The bones were designed to bolt straight onto a Tiger and with that in mind with the right brackets they will give the correct range of camber, i did
do a set with a slightly shorter top tube but there wasn't any real benefit and the extra machining required (the top adjuster is bought in) was
an extra cost.
Unfortunately like all things Tiger the brackets aren't standard.
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big-vee-twin
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| posted on 21/9/13 at 04:00 PM |
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I had exactly the same problem with my Panther, it turned out follwing advice from on here, I had Sierra bones and Cortina Uprights, although I
ordered Cortina bones I did not get them.
I changed the Cortina uprights for Sierra ones and everything lined up.
Duratec Engine is fitted, MS2 Extra V3 is assembled and tested, engine running, car now built. IVA passed 26/02/2016
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