mad-butcher
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posted on 14/4/09 at 06:23 PM |
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Who would be interested in a fully adjustable indy top wishbone
just trying to see how much interest there is out there for a fully adjustable top wishbone for the MK Indy, to see if it's worth while wozsher
making some.
hopefully similar to the hellfire one below
tony
Rescued attachment hellfire wishbone.JPG
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Hammerhead
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posted on 14/4/09 at 06:29 PM |
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possibly me
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Kev99
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posted on 14/4/09 at 06:36 PM |
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possibly me too
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Staple balls
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posted on 14/4/09 at 06:39 PM |
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Me also, possibly.
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eccsmk
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posted on 14/4/09 at 06:54 PM |
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ooh ooh ooh me me me
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greggors84
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posted on 14/4/09 at 06:56 PM |
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You mean with rose joints instead of poly bushes?
Me too, depending on cost.
Chris
The Magnificent 7!
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aka Keith
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posted on 14/4/09 at 07:04 PM |
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Tony, I could be interested, but dependant on pice as always.
Cheers
Craig
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mr henderson
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posted on 14/4/09 at 07:18 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by greggors84
You mean with rose joints instead of poly bushes?
Me too, depending on cost.
I should think the main point of the rose joints would be so that the lengths of the wishbone could be altered, maybe make the back shorter and the
front longer, so same overall length measured at the balljoint, but more castor.
John
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wozsher
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posted on 14/4/09 at 07:25 PM |
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Or maybe castor is altered by adjusting spacers on inboard mount?
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mads
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posted on 14/4/09 at 07:28 PM |
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interested too (if they will also fit the Spec R) though I do ask if these would be needed on the Spec R as it is a CAD designed chassis...? anyone
know the answer?
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907
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posted on 14/4/09 at 07:30 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by mr henderson
I should think the main point of the rose joints would be so that the lengths of the wishbone could be altered, maybe make the back shorter and the
front longer, so same overall length measured at the balljoint, but more castor.
John
Errr, wot 'e said
Paul G
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DIY Si
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posted on 14/4/09 at 07:34 PM |
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I've been meaning to do this for some time, so yeah go on then!
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mad-butcher
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posted on 14/4/09 at 07:45 PM |
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I think the idea of using rose joints is not so much for adjustment that would be done with the outer adjuster ( without removing the ball joint ) but
more of the fact they are narrow and therefore with the use of spacers can be moved backwards to help the self centering issue with the indy (lack of
caster)
tony
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wozsher
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posted on 14/4/09 at 07:48 PM |
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Hi Tony did you get u2u
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Mark G
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posted on 14/4/09 at 07:54 PM |
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I'd be interested, depending on cost of course.
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mr henderson
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posted on 14/4/09 at 08:07 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by mad-butcher
I think the idea of using rose joints is not so much for adjustment that would be done with the outer adjuster ( without removing the ball joint ) but
more of the fact they are narrow and therefore with the use of spacers can be moved backwards to help the self centering issue with the indy (lack of
caster)
tony
As long as there was enough space to achieve the desired castor within the existing bracket that would be fine.
Not really following what you said about the moving the outer adjuster. That would affect the camber, but not the castor
John
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mad-butcher
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posted on 14/4/09 at 08:15 PM |
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misunderstanding thought you meant using rose-joints to adjust camber
does anyone know roughly how far back the top wishbone needs to go
tony
[Edited on 14/4/09 by mad-butcher]
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wozsher
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posted on 14/4/09 at 08:26 PM |
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How much castor have you at the moment?
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mookaloid
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posted on 14/4/09 at 10:08 PM |
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I'd probably have a pair if the price is ok
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procomp
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posted on 15/4/09 at 07:06 AM |
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Hi
The problem you have with that question is that no two have the same. In fact the cars have different amounts on either side by quite some margin. But
the overall picture is that the lowest i have measured is 1Deg and the highest i have measured is 4.3 Deg if that is off any help. But it also needs
to be remembered that there is a large amount of the overall problem based in the lower wishbones and there poor jigging.
Ideally you should be getting the lower wishbones all squared up on the overall setup and then looking at making the top arms to suit. Although this
whole process really needs all the brackets taking of and starting a fresh to get it to be right.
Cheers Matt
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wozsher
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posted on 15/4/09 at 09:02 AM |
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Cheers Matt
Is the problem with the chassis or wishbones jigging or both?
Cheers Woz
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procomp
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posted on 15/4/09 at 01:07 PM |
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Hi
A lot of the problem is in the jigging of the brackets. But also in the chassis as an overall IE Thrust line problems of up to 20" have been
measured. It really is a suck it and see as there is no two the same which means it's not a common jig problem just pure inconsistency when
using the jigs. The exact same problems can be found on the Mac#1. I assume that if any wishbones are made for the Indy they would also fit the Mac#1
and help with the problems found there also.
Cheers Matt
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wozsher
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posted on 15/4/09 at 08:57 PM |
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Comments please on Matts (procomp) post re the Indy Cheers Woz
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mr henderson
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posted on 15/4/09 at 09:19 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by wozsher
Comments please on Matts (procomp) post re the Indy Cheers Woz
OK, I'll comment. I've never known Matt to miss an opportunity to slag off the MK Indy.
It may not be perfect, but the truth is that it is a damn good car, especially when the cost is taken into consideration (which it usually is).
I have no idea how many have been made so far, but I am sure that it is a lot, and there are many hundreds (maybe thousands?) of happy Indy owners
enjoying their cars.
It's true that there is something of an issue regfarding self centring, and if you were to make some wishbones that would cure this then I
expect there would be many hapy customers, especially if you could keep the price within the very reasonable MK context.
John
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wozsher
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posted on 15/4/09 at 09:27 PM |
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Thanks for that John, good to get both sides of the story Cheers Woz
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