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Author: Subject: Lower wishbone BJ with Sierra Donor
andyps

posted on 7/1/04 at 10:57 PM Reply With Quote
No idea if it would be the right size on the taper but Rover 800's use a press fit ball joint of the type Rorty mentions - about £15 from a local factor.





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Rorty

posted on 11/1/04 at 04:01 AM Reply With Quote
JoelP:
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what holds them in, is it just a good fit or is it clamped?



The splines visible in the pic prevent the balljoint from rotating, and the shoulder at the bottom of the unit prevents it from pulling through the collar welded to the outer end of the bottom wishbone.
There are only four taper formats commonly used in the automotive industry, and there must be dozens of these circular balljoints in use, so there's bound to be a suitable one out there. Perhaps brousing through, say, Quinton Hazell's catalogue at your local motor factor's would produce a result.
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JoelP

posted on 11/1/04 at 02:38 PM Reply With Quote
thanks Rorty! just been to the QHA website, they have many catalogues to download, unfortunately the steering and suspension section isnt online!! worth a try though!

anyone know where to find a comprehensive list of BJ tapers online!?






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Graceland

posted on 15/1/04 at 11:21 PM Reply With Quote
been doin a bit of research with a few of the sierra people on interford, and the conclusion is that the TCA's are made of forged steel - perfectly safe to weld to and strong aswell.

if they were made of cast iron, then under normal sierra driving conditions, if you hit a bump they'd shatter or fracture. - not good! so they made them out of forged steel to give them a bit of bend and lots of strength






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James

posted on 16/1/04 at 12:11 PM Reply With Quote
RPS,

Do you have a link for the website of your first picture?

Cheers,

James

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8smokingbarrels

posted on 18/1/04 at 09:55 PM Reply With Quote
Kingr and everyone else

Rorty is spot on with the beetle stuff. The press in BJ's are really tough and seem to last nearly forever- I only recently had to change them on my 30 year old, 150k mile bug!

The tie rod end looks like a slightly scaled down version of the transit drag link end- its M14 threaded. It also seems to last an ice age (on the bug anyway!).

For this reason I'm looking into using it with a mondeo upright- but thats another story... lol

chris

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RPS

posted on 19/1/04 at 09:29 AM Reply With Quote
James,

The web site for the original picture is:

http://www.wurlyvalve.i12.com/

RPS

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Steve Hnz

posted on 19/1/04 at 11:43 AM Reply With Quote
Rorty, some questions & sorry if I`ve missed the answers earlier.
Is the VW ball joint compatible with a cortina front upright do you know?
What thickness & depth is the ring that this mounts in on the wishbone, is it just miid steel ?
Thanks, Steve.

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dblissett

posted on 19/1/04 at 08:03 PM Reply With Quote
ball joint

has anyone got some lolocost wishbones as they seemed to have a bottom ball joint like the beetle one
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Rorty

posted on 20/1/04 at 04:43 AM Reply With Quote
Steve Hnz, I don't know what the Cortina taper angle/ratio is, but the VW bottom balljoint is 1:12. I suspect the Cortina will be inline with other Fords, and will be 1:8. There are bound to be other similar balljoints around with a 1:8 taper, as it's one of the most common (GM use it too).
If you let me have your email address, I'll send you a drawing of what's required.
It's basicaly just a mild steel stepped ring, turned from seamless pipe or round bar.





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Steve Hnz

posted on 22/1/04 at 01:06 PM Reply With Quote
Rorty, you`re right, 1:8 they are, many thanks. See U2U for email address, Steve.
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wurlyvalve

posted on 13/2/04 at 01:22 PM Reply With Quote
Hi all,

The picture at the start of the thread is of my car, and is my upright!

The uprights are in fact forged steel and weld up fine and strong. Gave them a serious bashing with a sledge hammer before I drove it anywhere! Further to that it has been crashed twice at Chivenor, both times smacking the front left wheel, and emerged unscathed. As well as me using the banks several times at Wiscombe to keep the car straight(ish) through the esses.
As for ackermann, humm, well that wasn't the best. The arms are pretty straight so I have no ackermann at the moment. Sort that out soon.
Castor is fine.
SVA was fine, with some common sense using bits of rubber.

And for all those not wishing to be in my car, that is fine too. Having taken a class win at St Eval on its second outing my share drives are chosen very carefully, thankyou.

www.wurlyvalve.i12.com

[Edited on 13/2/04 by wurlyvalve]

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