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Track rod end help
speedyxjs - 27/10/08 at 08:28 AM

I bought these on saturday but im a bit worried that the ends might be too small for the hole on the Jag hubs. What options do i have if they are too small?

speedyxjs - 27/10/08 at 08:36 AM

Pics

Jag



Pug

02GF74 - 27/10/08 at 09:49 AM

cry?

make a shim - not easy or drill hole out, plug and drill to correct taper, probably not easy either.

I was looking for longer tre a while back and all parts had catalogue which listed the thread and taper size; I spent quite a bit of time looking through to find the ones that would fit .... that would be your option.

maartenromijn - 27/10/08 at 10:09 AM

Maybe something like this will help:

http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=98815


From below link (German Ebay) you can find the TRE thread size and cone size of anykind of car. Use 'teilefinder', Kategorie = 'Lenkung & Achsaufhangung'

http://cgi.ebay.de/Kugelkopf-JAGUAR-XJ-XJ-XJS-Coupe-XJSC-Convertible-XK_W0QQitemZ320307735757QQihZ011QQcategoryZ61918QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1713.m15 3.l1262

blakep82 - 27/10/08 at 10:53 AM

rod end and bolt? its how mine are done, not by me, but as with most things on my car, 2nd hand racing parts. escort rack and bedford midi uprights.

i'll get you a photo later on if its helpful at all?

speedyxjs - 27/10/08 at 11:47 AM

Its the bit with the nut on it im concerned about not fitting.
I may be reading your replys wrong but i think your thinking im having a problem joining the Tie rod with the tre.
Im using a pug steering rack so the tre will fit ok.

blakep82 - 27/10/08 at 11:53 AM

was i right then?!
hang on, i'll get a photo...

blakep82 - 27/10/08 at 12:04 PM

tre
tre

speedyxjs - 27/10/08 at 12:16 PM

^^^ that looks perfect. Is it SVAOK?

maartenromijn - 27/10/08 at 12:18 PM

I think a Pug conus size is 12mm where a Jag conus is 15mm (sizes depending on car model). I would use the Jag ball joint with correct conus size to fit the Jag hub. Connect the Jag ball joint to the Pug tie rod using a made to fit extender-bolt-type-thing (don't know English word).

Although I like above solution using a rose joint, I would be worried about dirt getting in the bearing, causing it to wear out quickly. Even with the rubber bellows for rose joints (Ebay: McGill). Plus I don't know what mr Iva thinks.

The conus can be pulled in with the nut, making sure that it fits tightly.



[Edited on 27/10/08 by maartenromijn]

blakep82 - 27/10/08 at 12:28 PM

quote:
Originally posted by speedyxjs
^^^ that looks perfect. Is it SVAOK?


well... i'm not sure. we shall see i think other people have done it, as yes rose joints can wear quickly when they get dirt in them, but you can get rubber protecting boots, and you can fill them with grease, it should protect them, assuming your exxon valdez () won't be a daily driver, they should last a good ldecent time. those ones i have on my rack, as i mentioned before, are 2nd hand and used initially for racing, and then on a track day car i think, and they're still tighter than the new (cheap) ones i have on the back.