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steering arms too short!
robertst - 7/3/07 at 03:21 PM

managed to assemble the wishbones and uprights but upon offering the steering rack to its position, the arms are too short!

what can i do? i've searched the forum, but only found the opposite (i.e: long arms)


ayoungman - 7/3/07 at 03:34 PM

click here

I had the same issue, here's how I resolved it. HTH

[Edited on 7/3/07 by ayoungman]


robertst - 7/3/07 at 03:35 PM

err... it opens up my mail program!


Mr Whippy - 7/3/07 at 03:35 PM

ehem that link for some reason opens up a new mail message!!!


Mr Whippy - 7/3/07 at 03:36 PM

Mk Engineering can supply the threaded extensions you require, don't weld to lengthen



[Edited on 7/3/07 by Mr Whippy]


nib1980 - 7/3/07 at 03:40 PM

correct LINK


robertst - 7/3/07 at 03:42 PM

i gess its this one name: steering rack width!

so I should buy extensions and then if they are too long, cut the ends off and re-thread?

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
Mk Engineering can supply the threaded extensions you require, don't weld to lengthen

[Edited on 7/3/07 by Mr Whippy]


cheers mr. whippy i'll have a look

[Edited on 7/3/07 by robertst]


mookaloid - 7/3/07 at 03:43 PM

link http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=59306



Whoops way too slow

[Edited on 7/3/07 by mookaloid]


nib1980 - 7/3/07 at 03:46 PM

EVERYONE is at it now he he


quote:
Originally posted by mookaloid
link http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=59306



Whoops way too slow

[Edited on 7/3/07 by mookaloid]


tks - 7/3/07 at 04:05 PM

You can simply lathe some up with a lathe its a easy thing to do. Guess in Madrid there are several places wich can do that for you.

if you do gonna make them up make sure that the top (nut) enters the balljoint completely and then you adjust its lengt by screwing it more or less on the arm.

Regards,

Tks

p.d. can measure mine up for you..


Tks


robertst - 7/3/07 at 04:23 PM

i'm also having problems with the steering rack position. The front of the chassis interferes with the rack!

check this pic: you can see how the arm is too short AND both arms are pointing forwards...

i'm just hopping from one problem to another, opening up a can of worms with each thing...

any thoughts on this?
cheers! Rescued attachment rack.jpg
Rescued attachment rack.jpg


ayoungman - 7/3/07 at 04:25 PM

sorry fellas, pilot error here ! Sorted the link. Thats what happens when you try multi tasking.


pewe - 7/3/07 at 04:35 PM

Wesf27 sorted his by putting a full size nut (as opposed to a half size locking nut) on the steering rack, screwing on the track-rod end (so the threads line up) and then welding it in place. Should be OK as long as there is at least 12.5mm of the rack end into the track-rod. I'll probably tack weld mine then have the local welding shop do the bus. just to be sure. Cheers, Pewe


flak monkey - 7/3/07 at 04:53 PM

Theres something odd going on somewhere, what with the rack clash and the wishbone lengths.

Looks like you are using GTS bits, have a look in my archive at my early build pics and see if you can see whats wrong.

David

PS its normal to need to extend the escort rack to fit. Just turn up some extensions, or get someone else to do it

[Edited on 7/3/07 by flak monkey]


robertst - 7/3/07 at 07:47 PM

quote:
Originally posted by flak monkey
Theres something odd going on somewhere, what with the rack clash and the wishbone lengths.

Looks like you are using GTS bits, have a look in my archive at my early build pics and see if you can see whats wrong.

David

PS its normal to need to extend the escort rack to fit. Just turn up some extensions, or get someone else to do it

[Edited on 7/3/07 by flak monkey]


Cheers david, i think the clue to this proble is the bottom rear wishbone mounts, if i were to move them inwards, it would bring the steering mount in the upright more towards the back, therefore letting the rack fit properly.

however, i've checked some pictures and it doesn't matter if the steering arms are at an angle with respect to the horizontal. its when they are at an angle with respect to the vertical plane, then bump steer occurs.

i've seen cars that look like this...
its a bit exaggerated but what im pointing out is that the steering arms dont need to be straight (w.r.t the horizontal plane) do they?
(sorry for the crummy drawing ) Rescued attachment sketch.jpg
Rescued attachment sketch.jpg


robertst - 7/3/07 at 10:27 PM

was wandering throught the photo archive, and found some very interesting ideas from SVA'd cars.

what about using a certain threaded metal tube (dunno exact size yet but ballpark of 20mmų x 4mm) to cover the distance between the arms and the ball joint? (its just about 15cm)

it would be female threaded one one side (rack side) and male threaded on the ball joint side...

that would pass sva wouldnt it?

dont wanna point names but check andyhardings photo archive, you'll see what i mean (sorry andy)