Can't wait!
That is all.
About time!!!! Really hope it makes track days more fun for you
Bout bloody time too!!
They do great work and you will learn a lot, just be prepared for a bit of MK bashing as they aren't MK's biggest fans! All good banter
though!
Let us know how you get on
Do they have a test track as well as all the gear/scales and a vast experience of what needs setting to what.
dont think so mate! as far as im aware its a small outfit but they seem to know there stuff!
ian at force also comes highly recommended amongst the sprinters and hillclimbers
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Do they have a test track as well as all the gear/scales and a vast experience of what needs setting to what.
Just in time for a bit of winter driving
lol I knew I'd get a dig for waiting for the good weather to be over, had a lot on recently!
Really looking forward to it, hope Matt & Ivan comb their hair as I'm taking my camera!
They were chuffed to hear it's an outboard MK, and not an inboard RR
Hopefully will cure the positive camber in roll too by moving the upper rear wishbone out mount up alongside the shock absorber hole.
I'm trying to arrange a meeting with a client next Wednesday so I can call in
Awesome! Can't wait!
I'll be there all day from 10am til 5pm ish I think
I think a proper set up makes a big difference on an Indy and given the work you've done on your car, it's worth it.
I was also amazed at the difference a change to 13" wheels made on my Indy
David
To be honest David that's one of the reasons I've held back getting it setup, as I wanted 13s on it first before it got weighed, but I'm pretty sure it won't make a difference to the setup persay
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To be honest David that's one of the reasons I've held back getting it setup, as I wanted 13s on it first before it got weighed, but I'm pretty sure it won't make a difference to the setup persay
I'm really keen to get some 13s, but I know what I'm after, either Caterham 8 spokes which are rare rare... or some Team Dynamic Pro Race
1.2s...
Looking forward to getting it setup, no more having to battle & nurse it around corners like this...
http://www.youtube.com/trackdaynova
[Edited on 3/10/13 by yellowcab]
My problem was that it would roll too much on track, loose grip and seem to alternate wildly between over and under steer.
Between the setup and pro race 1.2s with r888s it seems to be pretty sorted now.
Interested to know how it goes so please keep us posted.
David
Thanks for the encouragement David.
I will report back with some good news I hope!
they rely on many years experience and thourough checks.
except when they set the shocks, its a work of art!!
Be prepared for them to bash the design of your car and find faults, this is not a negative in my eyes but what you pay for.
They can certainly not be described as yes men.
Enjoy and expect a long day.
I have 1 x complete set of Caterham 8 spokes with New avon CR500. The rear 8j rims are also brand new.
Slowly been selling off all my sets.
Tomorrow can't come soon enough!
Best money spent EVER
Their knowledge is just mind blowing.
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Best money spent EVER
Their knowledge is just mind blowing.
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Originally posted by yellowcab
Best money spent EVER
Their knowledge is just mind blowing.
Sorry for the brief post, I'm shattered, a long day!
Learnt loads!!!
But will the weather stay nice long enough to try it out properly?
I had my first run out on yesterday with the ARB fitted but can't really get it wound up enough on the road to tell if it made much difference
overall. The front was maybe a little more stable.
D.
These guys are totally amazing, yet unassuming at the same time.
Upon arrival, I'll be honest, I was expecting gloss floors, high tech equipment and neon signs, reception area, coffee machine etc. To get to a
residential address for my sat nav to say 'you have reached your destination' was quite a shock, I looked around then heard some roller
doors being opened to reveal a concrete prefab garage at the side of a house. Never let this disappoint you, they need no gadgets, just their brains,
knowledge & experience is all they need.
Ivan & Matt, father & son team - very welcoming, first off was a coffee... ahhh settled!
Firstly, they do not slag off MK like a lot of people say they do, they simply state the facts that's are not quite right with the chassis, but
not just MK, just kit cars in general.
Never derogatory, just plain and simple terms, 'this is what we have to work with, this is how we are going to get the best from what we've
got', exactly what I wanted to hear.
I got there around 10am, and left at 7pm, a long and cold day but my god I learnt so much and understood things as they really take the time to
explain each aspect to you. It would be far far quicker and easier for them to ask you to drop of your car and leave it with them, but they don't
want that, they want you to know what they're doing at every stage, and more importantly, why they're doing it.
For the money, I really don't think I could have spent that money any better, to think if it was the kind of glam place I was expecting, the
price probably would have doubled if not trebled, they have it right, costs & overheads are relatively low. (i gather)
Can't recommend them enough, I just can't wait to get back on track again to really see the difference
So the treatment my car had was the usual:
Front camber, castor & tow
Rear camber, castor & tow
Rake & ride height
Chassis measurement check from datum
2x corner weightings, once before and once after geometry adjustments
Pro-Tech shock dyno'ing
Wheel bearing checked
Tyre pressures corrected (oops)
Positive camber in roll issue rectified
As I had rosejointed the rear arms on my MK Indy, it enabled us to move the rear upper wishbone outer mounting point upwards along side the bottom
shock absorber bolt, which significantly reduced the amount of positive camber movement when in roll.
In it's standard position, when in 1degree of roll, I think we calculated that that calculated to 1.2degrees in positive movement (it did not
move to +1.2degrees, it just moved in a positive direction by 1.2degrees)
After we had moved the upper wishbone outer rose joint up alongside the bottom shock absorber bolt on the upright, it now reduced the amount of
movement from +1.2degrees, down to +0.4 degrees in a positive direction.
Obviously this is still not perfect, we would not like any 'positive' movement in camber when in roll, however, as above - for a very simple
move, this is the best we can get without having to grind, cut, move, and re-weld bracketry & shock absorber mounting points.
As my new static rear camber is -1.5degrees, when in roll, the outer rear wheel will now still have and remain in negative camber by 1.1degree.
Not driven in anger yet - as it was fairly dark when driving home, and only had my jet-black visor on... jumping on the M6 Northbound instead of
Southbound wasn't my greatest idea as it added 20mins onto my journey - d'oh!
Another highly positive review for ProComp from me, a very happy customer.
Nice write up, will make the effort to visit them next year 
Interesting about the rear wishbone mounting, did they mount the rod end inside the upright, next to the shock or on the outside using a longer
bolt?
I knocked up a couple of outer pivots to go either side of the shock mount, seems like it will be worth using them 
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We replaced the spacer that used to sit next to the shock, so its inside next to the shock absorber itself 
Yes very worth while doing!
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We replaced the spacer that used to sit next to the shock, so its inside next to the shock absorber itself
Yes very worth while doing!
lol just seen this...
Towards the bottom of this: http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=167149&page=16