BKLOCO
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 posted on 4/5/06 at 06:14 AM |
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Cycle wings & SVA
I seem to remember someone on here failing an SVA because:
The cycle wings did not protrude forward of an imaginary line projected vertically up from the front of the wheel rim.
I can't find this anywhere in my SVA manual.
Anyone got any clues?
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want!!! 
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Hellfire
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| posted on 4/5/06 at 07:01 AM |
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You may not find easily - it but it is (should be) there... and your description is bang on!
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jambojeef
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| posted on 4/5/06 at 07:02 AM |
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Dont know who it was but Ive had to move mine for that reason too.
Geoff
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saigonij
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| posted on 4/5/06 at 07:15 AM |
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thats what we had to do - says so in the Luego build manual.
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russbost
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| posted on 4/5/06 at 07:25 AM |
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It is in the manual, it's hard to find tho', I got the SVA tester to show me on test cos I was sure I'd read it then couldn't
find it when it mattered.
The wings must cover the plan form of the wheels (nothing to do with the tyres), so take a spirit level & measure straight up from the extremes
front,rear,inboard & outboard of the wheel rim & providing your wing covers this area - no problem
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Donners90
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| posted on 4/5/06 at 07:38 AM |
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Section 13
Exterior projections
(top of Page 4 on this PDF!)
EDIT:- ooops doc didn't attach. See 2 posts below this one 
[Edited on 4-5-2006 by Donners90]
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wilkingj
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| posted on 4/5/06 at 07:39 AM |
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Hmm... Mudguards for 15" wheels dont meet the SVA spec when 17" wheels are fitted.
My solution is the side out of a 5l plastic oil can.
It will probably "fall off" after the SVA, or I will get bigger guards if I can find any.
I set it to meet the forward edge of the rim, and then did the "Mud Flap" thing.
 
Left Front Rear
1. The point of a journey is not to arrive.
2. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
Best Regards
Geoff
http://www.v8viento.co.uk
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Donners90
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| posted on 4/5/06 at 07:40 AM |
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Section 13
Exterior projections
(top of Page 4 on this PDF!)
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Humbug
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| posted on 4/5/06 at 07:53 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by wilkingj
Hmm... Mudguards for 15" wheels dont meet the SVA spec when 17" wheels are fitted.
My solution is the side out of a 5l plastic oil can.
It will probably "fall off" after the SVA, or I will get bigger guards if I can find any.
I set it to meet the forward edge of the rim, and then did the "Mud Flap" thing.
Left Front Rear
It looks to me like you would be OK with the tyres in the pic... the wing has to cover the front of the wheel (when seen from directly above), not the
tyre. Maybe it's just an optical illusion from the angle the pic is taken from!
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BKLOCO
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| posted on 4/5/06 at 08:27 AM |
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That is complete bulls**t!
If thSVA inspectors are reading this in the way that is being suggested then it is bloody ridiculous.
That paragraph is clearly referring to wheels that project outside the body of a saloon car sideways.
The fact that the cycle wing doen't "cover" the wheel forward in planform does not constitute a greater or lesser danger.
This means I am going to have to re-position my cycle wings as they were set for smaller wheels than I have eventually used.
How the f*** do you remove PU adhesive?
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want!!!
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DarrenW
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| posted on 4/5/06 at 08:34 AM |
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I was very very close on failing at SVA for this. Put spirit level vertically at the front edge of the wheel (not tyre), arch has to be just in front
of this line.
PU is a nightmare to get off if you have been overkill between bracket and cycle wing. Try some acetone to soften it up. Failing that you need to add
an extra bit to the front as suggested above. If you fit mudguards to the back you may have some off cuts left to extend the front as a temp measure.
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 4/5/06 at 08:35 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by BKLOCO
How the f*** do you remove PU adhesive?
I found that a sharp stanley knife blade and a lot of patience does the trick...
David
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tks
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| posted on 4/5/06 at 10:10 AM |
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uhh
i see in your picture yout brakeline solution
is it SVA compliant??
Tks
The above comments are always meant to be from the above persons perspective.
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Hellfire
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| posted on 4/5/06 at 11:35 AM |
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Can't you just borrow the smaller wheels for which the wings were positioned to cover. You only need em for SVA.
Phil
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BKLOCO
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| posted on 4/5/06 at 11:45 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
Can't you just borrow the smaller wheels for which the wings were positioned to cover. You only need em for SVA.
Phil
Good idea but unfortunately they have bald tyres.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want!!!
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Hellfire
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| posted on 4/5/06 at 11:51 AM |
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Bald tyres WILL pass SVA 
Phil
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Hellfire
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| posted on 4/5/06 at 11:52 AM |
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Just change em over at the SVA centre. Seriously, they only check the speed rating of the tyre to ensure it complies.
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andyharding
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| posted on 4/5/06 at 11:53 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
Bald tyres WILL pass SVA
Phil
True but if you drove to the test and you wee them off they could tip the bill off when you would be leaving...
Are you a Mac user or a retard?
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 4/5/06 at 12:18 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
Bald tyres WILL pass SVA
Phil
Maybe... maybe not... but if they see them they're SURE to give you a hard time on any other issues.
I'd prefer to present the car in as good a condition as possible - clean, neat and legal.
David
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tks
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| posted on 4/5/06 at 12:23 PM |
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yeah
i think the same,
if you try to be smart and use that kind of loop holes.
You can be assured that the inspector takes it 100x more seriously and would ask you some chit documentation!
For the brakes? For the fluid? For the fuel hose? for the copper brake line?
For the brakecalipers?
brakepads??
etc. etc.
Tks
sorry to hijack but how is the SVA looking at the alloy wilwood 4pots??
The above comments are always meant to be from the above persons perspective.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 4/5/06 at 02:32 PM |
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The mudguard rule is based on that in the ancient "Construction and Use" regs.
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Hellfire
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| posted on 4/5/06 at 05:30 PM |
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Provided you don't drive to the vehicle to SVA with bald tyres, I don't see a problem. Just explain that you're waiting for new
tyres to be delivered so you can fit them and unfortunately they didn't arrive yesterday, as you'd been promised. I'm sure most SVA
inspectors would be sympathetic. Personally, I'd alter the cycle wings. Your choice but I'm just offering another option.
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darrens
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| posted on 4/5/06 at 06:07 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by BKLOCO
That is complete bulls**t!
If thSVA inspectors are reading this in the way that is being suggested then it is bloody ridiculous.
That paragraph is clearly referring to wheels that project outside the body of a saloon car sideways.
The fact that the cycle wing doen't "cover" the wheel forward in planform does not constitute a greater or lesser danger.
This means I am going to have to re-position my cycle wings as they were set for smaller wheels than I have eventually used.
How the f*** do you remove PU adhesive?
I agree completely with above, what's the point in failing a car on the fact the cycle wings doesn't pass the imaginary vertical line set
by by the front outer wheel rim.
This is ludicrous, what is it actually proving when the wing does inch that little bit further forward, your average motorbike cycle wing
doesn't cover this!!!!!
This is morelike examiners interpreting this incorrectly and then using their power to save face.
[Edited on 4/5/06 by darrens]
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 5/5/06 at 07:31 AM |
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Sorry - last picture was WAY too big!
These mudguards passed SVA, and they were looked at VERY closely by the tester. He didn't make any comment when he'd finished checking
them out.
David
 
Rescued attachment wheel-side.jpg
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DarrenW
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| posted on 5/5/06 at 10:20 AM |
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Mine are very similar David - inspector had very close look and commented he would have failed them if it wasnt for the trim!!
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