ianclark1275
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| posted on 21/1/25 at 03:37 PM |
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IVA Qustions
Afternoon all
Few questions on IVA thanks
 
Description
Photo attached is the IVA4 form im filling in
Ive used a 1979 Mk2 Escort as Donor
Engine = original
Gearbox = orginal
Prop was modified by D&F
Rear Axle (there was a spare with the donor and it looks exactly same and that the one ive used)
Steering Rack = orginal
Steering column = Sierra
Q1. Can i tick the Steering Assembly if i only used the Rack and no column ?
Q2. any recommendations for VIN Tag and Plate makers ?
Q3. Do Tyres go out of date?
Q4 When Belted in - all i can reach is the steering wheel and indicator / light stalks - no chance to reach dash switches - is it a requirement or
does the IVA man not put the seat belt on when testing switches?
Q5 Make = Locost Model = Seven but what have you put for Manufacturer ?
measure twice, cut once, scrap it, start again.
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jacko
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| posted on 22/1/25 at 12:36 PM |
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As on one else has answered my car was sva but will try
1 I would say yes
2 don’t know ?
3 yes they get hard and not good
4 I don’t know but it makes sense to be able to .
If you have made the chassis etc I would say it’s a locost
If you bought it from say mk I would think you could call it a mk
I must say I do not know for definitely it’s only my opinion
Graham
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ianclark1275
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| posted on 22/1/25 at 12:45 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jacko
As on one else has answered my car was sva but will try
1 I would say yes
2 don’t know ?
3 yes they get hard and not good
4 I don’t know but it makes sense to be able to .
If you have made the chassis etc I would say it’s a locost
If you bought it from say mk I would think you could call it a mk
I must say I do not know for definitely it’s only my opinion
Graham
Thanks for the reply Graham, im looking at some new tyres but not sure what to get to be fair - no hurry just yet.
i have a New question also
Q6. When pressing the fog light switch it must illuminate and turn the fog light on when the lights are on - then when you turn off the light the fog
light goes off - all good so far, then when you turn the lights back on the Fog light must remain off - is there a type of relay or switch that holds
the switch closed under power and then releases it ? i seem to recall the MG Metro i had was like that - big square button that was just a push and
release type.
measure twice, cut once, scrap it, start again.
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Slater
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| posted on 23/1/25 at 11:44 AM |
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for Q6. think you need one of these wired in with your fog light switch.
https://www.kitcardi
rect.co.uk/products/iva-compliant-fog-light-wiring-module?_pos=2&_psq=fog+light&_ss=e&_v=1.0
Q3 On the tyres. I had a crash when my 8 yr old tyres locked up when braking, they'd gone hard before they wore out. Blamed the tyres
anyway...so best to get new ones after say 5 yrs of use.
Q4 and you really need to be able reach all your switches when belted in, that's just common sense.
Why do they call Port Harcourt "The Garden City"?...... Becauase they can't spell Stramash.
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 23/1/25 at 12:42 PM |
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I'd be waiting till it's ready before the test to change all the tyres, especially if it has been sitting or they are getting old. Chances
are they are not even round now! If you want to preserve car tyres, take the wheels off and stack them on their side on some wood and make sure they
are kept dry and in the dark, but they will still age. My old car is being stored over the winter and each week I push the car a bit so it is not
sitting on the same bit of the tyre to avoid flat spots. If you can jack the car up and remove the wheels. Place hubs or suspension on blocks/stands
so the suspension is at normal ride hight to avoid stretching or damaging bushes. The date is written on the side something like 0920, month and year.
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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gremlin1234
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| posted on 23/1/25 at 02:10 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ianclark1275
Afternoon all
Q1. Can i tick the Steering Assembly if i only used the Rack and no column ?
Q2. any recommendations for VIN Tag and Plate makers ?
Q3. Do Tyres go out of date?
Q4 When Belted in - all i can reach is the steering wheel and indicator / light stalks - no chance to reach dash switches - is it a requirement or
does the IVA man not put the seat belt on when testing switches?
Q5 Make = Locost Model = Seven but what have you put for Manufacturer ?
quote:
Q6. When pressing the fog light switch it must illuminate and turn the fog light on when the lights are on - then when you turn off the light
the fog light goes off - all good so far, then when you turn the lights back on the Fog light must remain off - is there a type of relay or switch
that holds the switch closed under power and then releases it ? i seem to recall the MG Metro i had was like that - big square button that was just a
push and release type.
my answers:
q1, I think so
q2, you may need to get a vin from Dvla Kits and Rebuilds before making a plate
q3, yes tyres do age, but the iva does not check that for M1. but... replace if deteriorating
q4, don't know, but... it would be pointless having a switch you cannot use
q5, see answer to q2, make sure the name/model is consistent on ALL paperwork and plates.
q6, you don't need any complicated switching for rear fogs if they can only light when headlights are on.
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Slimy38
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| posted on 23/1/25 at 09:21 PM |
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Just to expand on Gremlins point for fog light, the IVA manual is very badly written and many places (including kit car direct) are selling complex
and expensive wiring solutions for a requirement that isn't there.
Specifically the text reads;
'Note 4: Either of the following scenarios will also be considered acceptable: The rear fog lamp(s) may continue to operate until the
position lamps are switched off, and the rear fog lamp(s) must then remain off until deliberately switched on again'
The word 'also' is important here. The required standard point does the same;
The rear fog lamp(s) must only illuminate when dipped beam, main beam or front fog lamps are lit (see alternatives in Notes 3 & 4).
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ianclark1275
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| posted on 24/1/25 at 11:22 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Slimy38
Just to expand on Gremlins point for fog light, the IVA manual is very badly written and many places (including kit car direct) are selling complex
and expensive wiring solutions for a requirement that isn't there.
Specifically the text reads;
'Note 4: Either of the following scenarios will also be considered acceptable: The rear fog lamp(s) may continue to operate until the
position lamps are switched off, and the rear fog lamp(s) must then remain off until deliberately switched on again'
The word 'also' is important here. The required standard point does the same;
The rear fog lamp(s) must only illuminate when dipped beam, main beam or front fog lamps are lit (see alternatives in Notes 3 & 4).
Thanks for the reply
Ahhh, i see said the blind man - ive got it - you can have
the "Normal" system - works only when lights are on
OR
the "newer" system where it does not come back on until you press it again.
im going with a Old mini Rocker switch then.
measure twice, cut once, scrap it, start again.
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ianclark1275
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| posted on 24/1/25 at 11:31 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by gremlin1234
quote:
Originally posted by ianclark1275
Afternoon all
Q1. Can i tick the Steering Assembly if i only used the Rack and no column ?
Q2. any recommendations for VIN Tag and Plate makers ?
Q3. Do Tyres go out of date?
Q4 When Belted in - all i can reach is the steering wheel and indicator / light stalks - no chance to reach dash switches - is it a requirement or
does the IVA man not put the seat belt on when testing switches?
Q5 Make = Locost Model = Seven but what have you put for Manufacturer ?
quote:
Q6. When pressing the fog light switch it must illuminate and turn the fog light on when the lights are on - then when you turn off the light
the fog light goes off - all good so far, then when you turn the lights back on the Fog light must remain off - is there a type of relay or switch
that holds the switch closed under power and then releases it ? i seem to recall the MG Metro i had was like that - big square button that was just a
push and release type.
my answers:
q1, I think so
q2, you may need to get a vin from Dvla Kits and Rebuilds before making a plate
q3, yes tyres do age, but the iva does not check that for M1. but... replace if deteriorating
q4, don't know, but... it would be pointless having a switch you cannot use
q5, see answer to q2, make sure the name/model is consistent on ALL paperwork and plates.
q6, you don't need any complicated switching for rear fogs if they can only light when headlights are on.
Thanks for the reply thats great info
1. Ive ticked steering
2.Alun from DVLA is sending me the VIN details - although he's asked for my address to send forms to ? i didn't know there was a "VIN
Request" form '
3.Will get new tyres but in case the wheel falls off that plan i know either way now thanks
4.Looking at Caterhams etc there are switches all the way across the Dashboard onto passenger side, no way they can be operated by driver with seat
belt on. im considering Steering wheel mounted Switches as thats the only thing my dad would be able to reach to be fair - the likely hood of needing
to reach the fog light for example would probably be nil in reality.
5.Agreed, im going to try and get Manufacturer Make model nailed down now - just interested in what others have done and if there are any pitfalls of
calling it something it isnt etc..
measure twice, cut once, scrap it, start again.
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ianclark1275
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| posted on 24/1/25 at 11:56 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
I'd be waiting till it's ready before the test to change all the tyres, especially if it has been sitting or they are getting old. Chances
are they are not even round now! If you want to preserve car tyres, take the wheels off and stack them on their side on some wood and make sure they
are kept dry and in the dark, but they will still age. My old car is being stored over the winter and each week I push the car a bit so it is not
sitting on the same bit of the tyre to avoid flat spots. If you can jack the car up and remove the wheels. Place hubs or suspension on blocks/stands
so the suspension is at normal ride hight to avoid stretching or damaging bushes. The date is written on the side something like 0920, month and year.
Good advice there thanks - my worst vehicle for flat spots is a 1978 Dodge Van which has Crossply tyres and when you set off it vibrates along the
road for a few miles until the tyres are round again lol -
The Tyres on the Locost are Ditch finders and will be replaced - i was just checking if i "Must" do it prior to IVA, it looks better to the
testers if i do that im sure.
Im going to have a look now at the age - they have done 2 Track days and a few runs round the Block so not worn out just too hard.
thanks
IC
measure twice, cut once, scrap it, start again.
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