museumman
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| posted on 27/2/18 at 11:52 AM |
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To tax or not to tax
Hi I just pulled my sons 1999 Pug MI16 306 out of one of my lockups intending to sprint race it at curborough this year class regs demand road legal
and there are only 14 of these on the road its immaculate so service and mot will be no problem BUT it was last taxed in 2007 that's when it
went in lockup BUT he NEVER SORNED IT HE HAS v5 BUT NOT v5c i don't want him to get a big fine even though he deserves it because I would have
to pay cos it's my project ( Im a poor pensioner)
Any advice at all would be more than welcome please!!!!!!!!!!!
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alistairolsen
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| posted on 27/2/18 at 12:53 PM |
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How has he avoided getting fines in the post for no tax for the last 11 years?
My Build Thread
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Sam_68
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| posted on 27/2/18 at 12:59 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by museummanHE HAS v5 BUT NOT v5c
Run that by us again?
Does that mean he has got the 'new keeper' slip, but that the car has never been registered in his name?
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museumman
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| posted on 27/2/18 at 01:19 PM |
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Hi guys
thanks for quick reply it is registered in his name to clarify ( my bad with 5 5c business) he has old colour log book he taxed it in 2006/2007 then
got bored and stuck it in my lockup we got no communication from DVLA he lived with me at time now own house we have 12 cars on road between us all
legal and about the same projects in my yard sad!!!!!!!! seems to have been forgotten by dvla but still listed on doc gov web site as last taxed 2008
which is odd because tax disc on screen is 2007??????
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Sam_68
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| posted on 27/2/18 at 02:07 PM |
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I can't remember the dates (about 2011, I think?), but I'm guessing that predates the 'mandatory' SORN requirements, and if I
remember correctly, anything that was already SORN before it became mandatory to be either insured or SORN could be left that way and it didn't
matter?
If he taxes it now, he should be OK, I think (no fine or anything), but then he will need to insure it to get the tax, and make fresh SORN
declarations in future if it is ever left uninsured.
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ReMan
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| posted on 27/2/18 at 02:12 PM |
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Think its a slim chance youd be fined if you insist it has been off road it used it on the road.
It obviously since sorn was invented, so it looks more like their error for nor sending tax/sorn reminder
www.plusnine.co.uk
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museumman
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 posted on 27/2/18 at 03:17 PM |
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thanks guys that was what we were hoping it seems to always be a lottery dealing with DVLA when you haven't got a brand new bog standard corsa
because i think a lot of things are a matter of opinion god help us!!!!!!!!!!!!
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CosKev3
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| posted on 27/2/18 at 06:34 PM |
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So are you asking if you should risk driving it to the track with no tax?
If you are I wouldn't, as if you get pulled you are liable for the back tax to when you last taxed the car,or when you bought it!
[Edited on 27/2/18 by CosKev3]
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museumman
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| posted on 27/2/18 at 06:47 PM |
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NOOOO coskev would never do that the choices as i see it MOT tax and insure it and run in road car class perfeck but if that is going to involve a big
fine
then two choices run in a different class and trailer it but only 50% of running available during year hardly worth the effort or put it back in
garage lock the door and forget about it The reason for my asking the question is if i try to tax or sorn it now i was worried we might stir the
waters and finish up with a big fine anyway not good
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CosKev3
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| posted on 27/2/18 at 06:53 PM |
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No you'll be fine.
They never came out and said untaxed cars needed to be SORN'ed when the brought it in compulsory.
If it changed ownership then they would send the new owner a letter saying tax or SORN.
Is it a S16?as they didn't make a Mi16 306 
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museumman
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| posted on 27/2/18 at 07:16 PM |
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Thanks coskev I think I will mot then and will tax will have everything crossed !!!!!!!!!!!! Interestingly we have a 205 with S16 in it that's a
tight fit no rubber in the engine mountings master cyl sits in cam cover just a couple of thou clearance engine dyno'd over 300HP .The 306 is
MI16 it has racing history was converted to road car by the guy we bought it off its trimmed out 2seater with four point roll cage DTA stand alone ecu
both same colour pure chance would be nice to to go to events etc.
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CosKev3
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| posted on 27/2/18 at 07:22 PM |
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Nice.
Great cars,had the Rallye version.
Get some pics when you drag it out 
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museumman
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| posted on 27/2/18 at 07:30 PM |
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Will do you can tell we like them too I will celebrate by taking some pictures when I get it roaded i've got a load of pics of 205 ill put them
up tomorrow thanks again for your help
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museumman
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| posted on 1/3/18 at 10:28 AM |
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hi coskev pic of 205 s16
 
205 s16
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museumman
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| posted on 1/3/18 at 10:35 AM |
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306
 
306 after 10 years in storage
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museumman
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| posted on 1/3/18 at 10:38 AM |
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306
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CosKev3
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| posted on 1/3/18 at 11:23 AM |
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Nice (although 205 needs standard grille )
My Rallye
 
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museumman
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| posted on 1/3/18 at 12:06 PM |
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Hi you are right of course but grill/bumper and splitter are shaved wafer thin to cover oil cooler and twin 45 DCOE's I still have original
parts but it is a member of the family ill never sell it they probably never be used. Yours really shiny underneath was it a bare shell build have you
still got it. Mine not so I'm afraid
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 1/3/18 at 12:24 PM |
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 wow that's super clean
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CosKev3
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| posted on 1/3/18 at 02:33 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by museumman
Hi you are right of course but grill/bumper and splitter are shaved wafer thin to cover oil cooler and twin 45 DCOE's I still have original
parts but it is a member of the family ill never sell it they probably never be used. Yours really shiny underneath was it a bare shell build have you
still got it. Mine not so I'm afraid
Underside was totally stripped bare yeah,sides kits off etc but I didn't do anything to the bodywork above sill level, it was a low mileage car
Unfortunately I don't own it anymore  not got the space or spare cash to keep hold of cars I don't use!
Wish I had a barn I could have kept majority of my old cars in looking at values these days!
1275GT Mini,1300 sport mk2 Escort, mk1 XR2,Cavalier Sri130,16v Astra GTE,saph cosworthx2,Evo V and VI,2x309Gti's, 306 Rallye.
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Daf
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| posted on 1/3/18 at 02:36 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by CosKev3
Wish I had a barn I could have kept majority of my old cars in looking at values these days!
1275GT Mini,1300 sport mk2 Escort, mk1 XR2,Cavalier Sri130,16v Astra GTE,saph cosworthx2,Evo V and VI,2x309Gti's, 306 Rallye.
It's depressing isn't it? I was working out the other day how many years I could knock of my mortgage if I'd kept some of the cars
I've had and sold them all today!
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museumman
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| posted on 1/3/18 at 04:20 PM |
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Yes that's right when I go to shows with the boys ( they grew up from primary age toddling in my workshop) we go round all the classics playing
cars dad has owned!!!! The thing that saddens me most is the ones that haven't been preserved. When did you last see a Daf 55 marathon
coupe????????
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CosKev3
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| posted on 2/3/18 at 04:42 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Daf
quote:
Originally posted by CosKev3
Wish I had a barn I could have kept majority of my old cars in looking at values these days!
1275GT Mini,1300 sport mk2 Escort, mk1 XR2,Cavalier Sri130,16v Astra GTE,saph cosworthx2,Evo V and VI,2x309Gti's, 306 Rallye.
It's depressing isn't it? I was working out the other day how many years I could knock of my mortgage if I'd kept some of the cars
I've had and sold them all today!
Yeah hind sight is a wonderful thing,not!
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