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Scimitar engine recommendations
Simon - 6/6/18 at 10:01 PM

OK, so one day I actually intend getting on with my Scimitar. For some reason I sold the Lexus engine and box I had and was going to mate something to the Mazda RX8 box I had (yes, some little shite nicked it off my driveway!) so am looking for suggestions.

My current fave is the Jag 3l V6/manual box from S type Jag. Same size (displ.) as Essex V6 just not an antiquated boat anchor.

Cheers

Benzine - 6/6/18 at 10:08 PM

XUD9TE + R380

Ugg10 - 6/6/18 at 10:33 PM

Got a mate who has two, one is a 5a and had a stock Essex and is now being converted to a 3.0l jag v6, the other is a 6 and that has an omega 3.2 v6.

Have a look at the thread on here where Bigwassa (I think) is looking into getting the Mondeo v6 (pretty much the same engine as the jag) running on OEM ecu.

BMW 2.8 straight 6 with close to 200hp would be nice and cheap if it will fit, red gearbox but rear diff ratios may need some thought, some bmw have Some strange ratios, same goes for the jag v6.

The Mazda 2.5 kv6 would be nice with an mx5 box, a few of those around but getting rarer.

Mr Whippy - 7/6/18 at 05:48 AM

well I'd keep in mind the continuing rise in fuel before choosing an engine, you don't want to be in the situation of not wanting to run the car due to how much it costs...

big_wasa - 7/6/18 at 08:45 AM

The price of fuel isn’t really a consideration with a “toy” is it. My tintop does sub 24mpg and I don’t care as it only did <3000 last year, I do have other cars.

I do like the idea of the Aj30 / Duratec 30. And am working on one at the moment.

Fantastic sound.
I doubt you need more power or torque.
They can be very cheap. Subject to packaging it.

Other engines I could fancy in a scimitar,

Jag Aj16s. 4.0 m90 blower 320bhp.

nick205 - 7/6/18 at 09:07 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Benzine
XUD9TE + R380



Is that a Pug diesel with a Rover gearbox?

Could well be a good choice!

We used to have a 306 HDI with a 2.0 diesel engine. Whilst it didn't set the world alight with raw power it ticked along perfectly and drank lightly too.

mcerd1 - 7/6/18 at 11:12 AM

if you don't want to mess about with relocating the steering rack the length of the engine will be very important - the old essex V6 sits behind it and quite low too

Benzo - 7/6/18 at 11:46 AM

Opel KFV6

big_wasa - 7/6/18 at 12:40 PM

So a V engine is the way forward then.

mcerd1 - 7/6/18 at 01:03 PM

quote:
Originally posted by big_wasa
So a V engine is the way forward then.

so long as you also watch the size of the heads to avoid having to mod the bulkhead/firewall too much (if that bothers you of course)



[Edited on 7/6/2018 by mcerd1]

Simon - 7/6/18 at 09:17 PM

The engine I'd really like is the 2.7 diesel from the Jag but these cars seem to hold their value so will prob go for the 3l V6.

Not too worried about original steering rack as I've grafted Mazda RX8 subframes on the front and back

[img] scim chassis
scim chassis [/img]

Cheers

Nickp - 8/6/18 at 05:20 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Simon
The engine I'd really like is the 2.7 diesel from the Jag but these cars seem to hold their value so will prob go for the 3l V6.

Not too worried about original steering rack as I've grafted Mazda RX8 subframes on the front and back

[img] scim chassis
scim chassis [/img]

Cheers


So you've got RX8 running gear? And you're not worried about fuel economy? So why not go for an RX8 motor?
If good they're a cracking engine and surely it'll be the first one in a Scim?

Mr Whippy - 8/6/18 at 05:29 AM

quote:
Originally posted by big_wasa
The price of fuel isn’t really a consideration with a “toy” is it. My tintop does sub 24mpg and I don’t care as it only did <3000 last year, I do have other cars.

I do like the idea of the Aj30 / Duratec 30. And am working on one at the moment.

Fantastic sound.
I doubt you need more power or torque.
They can be very cheap. Subject to packaging it.

Other engines I could fancy in a scimitar,

Jag Aj16s. 4.0 m90 blower 320bhp.



That's what I thought about my Landy... then I sold it cos it was way to expensive to use and would spend 99% of is time in the garage while I was still paying insurance and road tax for it...fuel used to be a non issue but those days are long gone.

Simon - 8/6/18 at 06:10 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Nickp

So you've got RX8 running gear? And you're not worried about fuel economy? So why not go for an RX8 motor?
If good they're a cracking engine and surely it'll be the first one in a Scim?


Got the whole RX8 for £300 but as usual engine was knackered. But most of the interior, all running gear, airbags!!!, abs etc all going in scim eventually &#129315;

Well, that's the plan

Cheers

Nickp - 8/6/18 at 07:26 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Simon
quote:
Originally posted by Nickp

So you've got RX8 running gear? And you're not worried about fuel economy? So why not go for an RX8 motor?
If good they're a cracking engine and surely it'll be the first one in a Scim?


Got the whole RX8 for £300 but as usual engine was knackered. But most of the interior, all running gear, airbags!!!, abs etc all going in scim eventually &#129315;

Well, that's the plan

Cheers


There's cheap ones out there with good engines though

40inches - 8/6/18 at 07:28 AM

I used the AJ30 with the Getrag box, loving it
I hadn't given the fuel costs much thought, it is a toy after all! But I went for a "cruise" yesterday, put £10 worth of petrol in.
Checked the level after (I use a dip stick) and had used just over half in 32 miles, so around 35 mpg?
By comparison the S-Type would have done about 25 mpg for the same run.
The standing costs, Tax and insurance, are just over £8 a week. Good value I think

Benzine - 8/6/18 at 10:58 PM

quote:
Originally posted by nick205
quote:
Originally posted by Benzine
XUD9TE + R380



Is that a Pug diesel with a Rover gearbox?

Could well be a good choice!

We used to have a 306 HDI with a 2.0 diesel engine. Whilst it didn't set the world alight with raw power it ticked along perfectly and drank lightly too.


Yeah pug engine from a 306/405/806 with the gearbox from an LDV Pilot. Cheap to buy, cheap to tune, cheap to run The HDI is a great engine too

Markymark - 8/6/18 at 11:24 PM

I may be biased here but.....

Alfa V6 mated to Mazda RX 8 gearbox
Just saying

Mark

nick205 - 15/6/18 at 08:13 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Benzine
quote:
Originally posted by nick205
quote:
Originally posted by Benzine
XUD9TE + R380



Is that a Pug diesel with a Rover gearbox?

Could well be a good choice!

We used to have a 306 HDI with a 2.0 diesel engine. Whilst it didn't set the world alight with raw power it ticked along perfectly and drank lightly too.


Yeah pug engine from a 306/405/806 with the gearbox from an LDV Pilot. Cheap to buy, cheap to tune, cheap to run The HDI is a great engine too



As I thought

I've had a 306 HDI myself and it was a good car and engine - plenty of them around too, so you're right they'll not be expensive engines to get hold of. LDV Pilot vans I'm not so sure of, don't see many about down my way in Hampshire (doesn't mean they're not out there though).