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At last! Pre - IVA photos!
stevegough - 10/11/10 at 09:13 PM

After a twenty five month enjoyable build, I'm ready to apply for the IVA test.

I invite your comments / criticisms / observations before I post the forms.

Many thanks for all your help and support in the past.

Regards, Steve.


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femster87 - 10/11/10 at 09:21 PM

I really like that the dash mate. looks like a really clean build.


big_wasa - 10/11/10 at 09:25 PM

I thought mine was close but yours looks so more finished.

As for iva they love edges. I would check the edges on the front of the mirrors.

just wondering why on the rear bumper ?


interestedparty - 10/11/10 at 09:26 PM

Looking good. Are the upper seat belt mount buckles compliant, can't see from the pics? Can't see any other potential problems. Can't see the bias bar, is it locked off properly (and adjusted )?


daviep - 10/11/10 at 09:36 PM

Looks very tidy.

The chassis which is exposed at the nose cone may need to be covered depending on tester. I'll have a look for some pics of my fix.

Battery positive needs a cover on it (so does the starter)

Are your front indicators wide enough?


Davie


daniel mason - 10/11/10 at 09:39 PM

excellent steve, that should free up some of your time to build my car for me! lol..
where did you source your padded seats mate?


adithorp - 10/11/10 at 09:54 PM

I'd go along with what daviep said. Are the mirror mount/bases radiused enough?

Looks very tidy though. Get the form posted.

adrian


austin man - 10/11/10 at 09:56 PM

suspension mounts on the front may require some trim, radius on mirrors cant see whether you ave covered the bottom of the shocker. Other than that it looks a cracking build


NigeEss - 10/11/10 at 10:26 PM

Looks fantastic, well done.


Nash - 11/11/10 at 07:33 AM

Looks clean. Not all the piccies showed up for me (on my phone) but one question i do have from the picture i can see is, Where are your side indicator repeaters?

.......... Neil


Nash - 11/11/10 at 07:33 AM

Looks clean. Not all the piccies showed up for me (on my phone) but one question i do have from the picture i can see is, Where are your side indicator repeaters?

.......... Neil


jabbahutt - 11/11/10 at 08:13 AM

Are the side repeaters on the side of the rear arch?? Cracking looking car, you must be really proud of the finished article


speedyxjs - 11/11/10 at 08:15 AM

Looks great

I personally love the rear bumper!


hughpinder - 11/11/10 at 08:47 AM

In the photo, the perforated metal grille on the bonnets looks like its proud of the surface - is it radiused?

Regards
Hugh


blakep82 - 11/11/10 at 10:40 AM

i think side repeaters have to be a certain distance from the front of the car? they might have to move forward a bit, otherwise, looks good

edit, they have to be within 2600mm (2.6m) of the front of the car. think they might need moving

[Edited on 11/11/10 by blakep82]


Bluemoon - 11/11/10 at 01:01 PM

Nice build but your dash looks like it has sharp radius, and the bottom edge needs to be >19mm radius unless soft (then 5mm I think)..


interestedparty - 11/11/10 at 04:43 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Bluemoon
Nice build but your dash looks like it has sharp radius, and the bottom edge needs to be >19mm radius unless soft (then 5mm I think)..


Good point, I missed that, definite fail.

5mm radius if padded, but the padding needs to be quite stiff, ordinary foam NFG.


martyn_16v - 11/11/10 at 08:33 PM

Sharp edges on the flats of the lambda sensor will need covering. I wrapped mine in an offcut of heat wrap.

Looks a tidy build. Nice choice of engine


interestedparty - 11/11/10 at 09:14 PM

Another thing- are those bezels round the handbrake and gear lever more than 5mm thick, or if they are do they stand off the surrounding surface more than 5mm, because if they are/do they will have to meet the radius requirements.


stevegough - 12/11/10 at 11:12 AM

PHEW! well, guys I can't thank you enough for all the constructive help and positive comments you have posted, and I'll try and answer most of them now.

Mirrors: several of you ( Big Wasa / Interestedparty / Austinman / Adithorp ) mentioned the mirror edges - yes, they're
wickedly sharp at the moment and I'm not sure what to do them in - probably rubber 'U' edging splayed, trimmed
and superglued?

Also Adithorp pointed out the bases - good point - they aren't the 2.5mm radius, but they only project 4mm from
the surface and they are pretty rounded in any case.

Upper seatbelt mountings: (interestedparty) yes, they are edged with rubber and nut-capped!

Bias Bar: (also interestedparty) - no, I haven't set or wired it - how on earth is the home builder supposed to set up and
test this when it isn't allowed on the road!!! hope to do this at the test

Chassis by the nose cone: (Daviep) yes, you're right - I hadn't looked at these - I have now - and they need covering.

Battery +ve cover: (Daviep) didn't know it needed a cover? - Rubber sock type or plastic 'lid' type? and the starter
motor lead is almost impossible to get at - but I will try!

Front indicators: (Daviep) 400mm from the outer edge of the rear (widest point) is at the centre of the glass.

Padded Seats: ( near - neighbour in Locost circles! - Daniel Mason) the seats are second hand westfield ones from ebay
and are dead comfy! And as for helping building YOUR car.....by the time I have got mine on the road, then
worked through all the other jobs I have been shelving over the last few months - decorating, painting, bed
to build for Xmas etc... yours will probably be finished! (But I won't rule it out!)

Suspension mounts: (Austin man) - yes, I think you are right - the front upper will need fettling, but the bottom of the
shockers are in the new 'exempted area' between the wishbones, so should be ok.

Side repeaters: (Nash / Jabbahut / blake82) - I'm pretty chuffed with these - tiny LED ones, as Jabba and blake spotted
mounted at the front of the rear arches - actually 2.44 metres from the tip of the nosecone.

Grille on bonnet: (hughpinder) - flush with bonnet (0.75mm thick) - blunted edge - but I'm not sure whether the rule which
says all sheetmetal must have a 180degree returned edge might apply here (and the exhaust exit surround, and
the rear arches s/s protectors) - anybody clarify?

Dashboard lower edge: (Bluemoon and my old friend interestedparty) Firstly, the left side has a 40mm plastic drainage
pipe screwed, bonded and covered with vinyl. The centre reaches the tunnel, and the right side slopes so
sharply upwards there is nowhere to put a 40mm radius on. I'm hoping they will allow it!! The camera angle
makes it look worse than it is, though.

Lambda sensor: (Martyn_16v) another quick pop to the garage - Yep, just contactable - so another job on the list -
get some heat wrap - could do with some under the bonnet anyway.

Engine choice - (Also metioned by Martyn_16v) just thought I'd mention that my choice of engine was the result of one
of my first posts on Locostbuilders - I was guided by the collective brain and experience of the forum.
I think it was a great choice, too.


I now have a list of 9 jobs to sort before the IVA - the forms are nearly complete, going to do some photocopying of reciepts
at work over the weekend, and will apply on monday.

Once again, thanks to all you guys mentioned above and the ones I haven't
(femster87, NigeEss, Speedyxjs, SteveLovelock and last but by no means least Richard Thomas - also a neighbour who donated me a trailer).
Also congratulations and thanks to ChrisW and Fozzie for running such a fantastic forum!



Cheers, Guys! Now, lets sort these reciepts out......



stevegough - 12/11/10 at 11:21 AM

Sorry - missed one item:

Gearlever and h/b bezels (interested party) - they are from Europa and are only 4mm thick - so I don't think they will fail.


daviep - 12/11/10 at 02:09 PM

quote:
Originally posted by stevegough
PHEW! well, guys I can't thank you enough for all the constructive help and positive comments you have posted, and I'll try and answer most of them now.

Mirrors: several of you ( Big Wasa / Interestedparty / Austinman / Adithorp ) mentioned the mirror edges - yes, they're
wickedly sharp at the moment and I'm not sure what to do them in - probably rubber 'U' edging splayed, trimmed
and superglued?

Also Adithorp pointed out the bases - good point - they aren't the 2.5mm radius, but they only project 4mm from
the surface and they are pretty rounded in any case.




Exterior mirrors are exempt from the external projections check. Its on page 2 chapter 16 of the IVA manual.

link to IVA manual

Regards
Davie


martyn_16v - 12/11/10 at 06:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by stevegough
Battery +ve cover: (Daviep) didn't know it needed a cover? - Rubber sock type or plastic 'lid' type? and the starter
motor lead is almost impossible to get at - but I will try!


Mine doesn't have any covers on the +ve of battery, starter or alternator, and it wasn't mentioned at all in my test.


daviep - 12/11/10 at 07:31 PM

quote:
Originally posted by martyn_16v
quote:
Originally posted by stevegough
Battery +ve cover: (Daviep) didn't know it needed a cover? - Rubber sock type or plastic 'lid' type? and the starter
motor lead is almost impossible to get at - but I will try!


Mine doesn't have any covers on the +ve of battery, starter or alternator, and it wasn't mentioned at all in my test.


My examiner obviously interpreted the manual differently

From the IVA manual:

All electrical components must be secure be of adequate capacity and insulated as required as to prevent short circuiting during operation.

For the sake of 50 pence I don't think I would risk a fail

Davie


stevegough - 12/11/10 at 09:56 PM

I have some rubber cable ends on a battery isolation switch I'm not fitting so, it won't even cost me 50p. What would be the point of me posting pre IVA pics for comments, and then ignoring the advice from the replies?

Good news about the mirrors, though - thought I'd read it all, but I missed that one line! - well done that man!


nearly done - 15/11/10 at 07:11 PM

Steve,
nice looking build particuarily impressed with the trim that you used on the transmission tunel top.What is it and where did you get it if you dont mind me asking.

Cheers,Sean


stevegough - 16/11/10 at 02:44 PM

The aluminium strips I bought from a metal supplier at Stoneleigh show - they were £3 each! - Glad you like them!

Quick update - posted the form now - committed!


Stott - 17/11/10 at 07:58 AM

quote:
Originally posted by daviep

Exterior mirrors are exempt from the external projections check. Its on page 2 chapter 16 of the IVA manual.

link to IVA manual

Regards
Davie



I just read the exterior projections bit again and it seems it applys to mirrors to me?!?

Which bit were you reading?

ATB
Stott


stevegough - 17/11/10 at 12:59 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Stott
quote:
Originally posted by daviep

Exterior mirrors are exempt from the external projections check. Its on page 2 chapter 16 of the IVA manual.

link to IVA manual

Regards
Davie



I just read the exterior projections bit again and it seems it applys to mirrors to me?!?

Which bit were you reading?

ATB
Stott


There is one brief line on the manual which I think DavieP is referring to:


Page 127 of the manual - right at the bottom on the left says

"The assessment will not apply to exterior mirrors or to the ball of towing..."

and then it continues on the next page.


Stott - 17/11/10 at 02:22 PM

Just found it, page109/261 top left of page. (current manual as linked to above)

So it would appear that they are exempt, sweet