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Proof of engine change
flak monkey - 19/5/10 at 02:54 PM

I really should get the engine number changed on the V5 I suppose....

The rules changed last year and you now have to provide proof of the change regardless of whether there is a change in capacity or fuel type etc and according to the DVLA it needs to be one of the following

quote:
DVLA will need written evidence of any changes to engine number and cylinder capacity (cc). Written evidence can be:

a receipt for the replacement engine
written evidence from the manufacturer
an inspection report provided for insurance purposes
written confirmation on headed paper from a garage if the change in engine size took place before you bought the vehicle


I have none of those things....

No reciept for the engine.
The manufactuer is me, so I suppose I could try and blag that.
No idea what the inspection report they mention is and I dont have one anyway.
And I dont know any friendly garage owners to do the following.

From what I have read on other forums they can be quite arsey about it and just send the V5 back without the changes made if they arent happy (and yes it still takes a month to come back!)

Any suggestions?

[Edited on 19/5/10 by flak monkey]


speedyxjs - 19/5/10 at 03:03 PM

I was going to do this on my donor car so i could count the 3.6 as part of the donor (donor was 2.9) but i thought you just had to give photographic evidence (not so hard for you).


coozer - 19/5/10 at 03:04 PM

I just used a bit of A4 with a scribbled receipt from a salvage yard. A bit of muck and oil on it and sent it off.

V5 came straight back.

I have similar situation arising when I change the number on my 4x4 (cause I don't have the original engine)

As for the second one, have you not got any headed paper for 'Flacks Fabrications' ??


Humbug - 19/5/10 at 03:15 PM

Wouldn't the manufacturer mean the manufacturer of the engine? I should have thought with a photo of the engine in the car, showing the engine no. if poss, and a letter from Ford/printout of the Haynes manual or whatever it is that shows the engine details for a given number, you should be laughing?

...then again, it is DVLA we're talking about!

Good luck


flak monkey - 19/5/10 at 03:27 PM

I could write a letter on my own headed paper and invoices yes. Legit as I carried out the work... I can also provide photos.

Whether it would work or not I have no idea!

I believe the fact that the engine is a much newer unit should have no effect on the emissions test?


Madinventions - 19/5/10 at 03:32 PM

I don't think they actually give a toss what you send them, just as long as they've got something they can put on record.

I went to my local garage and got the guys there to sign a bit of their headed notepaper, and I then wrote what the DVLA wanted to hear on it. If I was doing it again, I'd probably just make my own receipt.



Ed.


will121 - 19/5/10 at 03:34 PM

ive got to do this some time and wondered what the 'written confirmation on headed paper from a garage if the change in engine size took place before you bought the vehicle' consists of?
are garage signing to say its been done or done to an acceptable standard?


iank - 19/5/10 at 03:36 PM

I believe the garage inspection report is paying a garage to get the engine number and type it up on a bit of headed paper. If you have your own and you did the work then I don't see a problem with that.

The biggest thing they are trying to avoid is people trying to drop a tax bracket by "installing a smaller capacity engine" as a purely paperwork exercise. I'd expect them to get more interested if you'd fitted a 1400cc rather than a 2000cc engine.


iank - 19/5/10 at 03:38 PM

quote:
Originally posted by will121
ive got to do this some time and wondered what the 'written confirmation on headed paper from a garage if the change in engine size took place before you bought the vehicle' consists of?
are garage signing to say its been done or done to an acceptable standard?


It's DVLA so engine number and tax class correct rather than safety. If it were safety VOSA would be involved.


Madinventions - 19/5/10 at 04:15 PM

My 'Garage report' was:

<Headed notepaper>
This is to certify that engine number xxyyzz has a stated capacity of 1.7L.

Signed: xxxxxxx
Director.
</headed notepaper>

This was accepted by Swansea with no problems and it doesn't need to be any more complicated than that.

I'll dig it out later and post up a photo if you want?

Ed

Edit: Oh - and from what I recall, it's proof of engine size they want, not proof of it being fitted or changed.

[Edited on 19/5/10 by Madinventions]


Madinventions - 19/5/10 at 07:22 PM

Here you go...

Engine change note
Engine change note


Ed.


Benzine - 20/5/10 at 08:16 AM

I just wrote a short letter saying what I had done and I including a photo of the new engine in the car and a close up picture showing the engine number. I didn't do anything official or sign it as a company or anything, came back straight away


kj - 21/5/10 at 07:29 AM

Just remember to put the right capacity on the sheet as they sent mine back. eg 2.0 pinto should be 1993cc.