andytmc
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| posted on 24/3/04 at 09:54 PM |
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Velocity Engine Choice
Hi everyone
Ordered my Velocity XT kit at the Stafford show and looking forward to the build.
Any views on the relative merits / costs of installing a Zetec vs Toyota 4AGE in a Velocity XT?
Thanks
Andy
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zetec
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| posted on 25/3/04 at 12:35 AM |
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Both good engines. £££ zetec slightly cheaper as cost of donor engines dropping as loads in scrapyards, therefore parts etc easier to get and suspect
slightly higher bhp for same money. 4AGE nice compact unit but general and tuning parts more limited in this country. Both have good and bad points.
I like the fact that if I blow mine up (and I do try to very hard!) I can get one delivered the next day for under £300, slap it in and 175bhp from
bog standard block/head 2ltr.
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ChrisW
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| posted on 25/3/04 at 10:16 AM |
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Zetec can be turbocharged using Fiesta/Escort RS turbo parts. Just needs a compression reducer plate and a mod to the crossover pipe to make it clear
the rocker cover.
Chris
My gaff my rules
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nick205
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| posted on 25/3/04 at 10:26 AM |
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costs of gearbox choice/mating adapters should also be considered. Might be cheaper going the Zetec/Type 9 route.
Nick
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Fifer
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| posted on 25/3/04 at 08:48 PM |
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X Flow 
Well I like them !
And,
It's closer to the Locosts Grand daddy's engine
And,
I can understand how to fix them 
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Ant
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| posted on 6/4/04 at 12:31 PM |
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Zetec - what induction/ignition/fueling are you using to get 175bhp from a stock 2.0l zetec?
Anyone fitted a Duratec yet, and how much lighter are they?
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billy
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| posted on 8/5/04 at 09:16 PM |
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this is the power
heres the best engine for the kit 
luego-lo-cost finished,vauxhall 16v 2.0,twin 45s de-dion rear set up
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billy
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| posted on 8/5/04 at 09:17 PM |
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whoops
try this pic
 
Rescued attachment IMG0052.JPG
luego-lo-cost finished,vauxhall 16v 2.0,twin 45s de-dion rear set up
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andytmc
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| posted on 13/5/04 at 07:51 PM |
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Looks nice!
Hi Billy
Very tidy!
What other bits and pieces did you need to fit apart from the carbs?
Thanks
Andy
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zetec
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| posted on 13/5/04 at 09:24 PM |
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I've got Jenvey 45mm throttle bodies and Emerald ECU, Raceline inlet manifold and nice free flowing exhaust. Got it set up on a rolling road and
hasn't missed a beat. Pic on archive.
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billy
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| posted on 14/5/04 at 07:26 PM |
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VERY NICE
looks a nice car m8, shame your using a ford engine.
luego-lo-cost finished,vauxhall 16v 2.0,twin 45s de-dion rear set up
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zetec
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| posted on 15/5/04 at 05:03 AM |
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Agree, wanted to go for K series but toooo much bad press! Also did a bit of research on Vx lump but with zetecs out numbering XE 10-1 thats what I
got.
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billy
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| posted on 15/5/04 at 08:46 PM |
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vauxhall v ford
mmmmmmmmmmmm
luego-lo-cost finished,vauxhall 16v 2.0,twin 45s de-dion rear set up
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James
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| posted on 19/5/04 at 03:26 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Ant
Anyone fitted a Duratec yet, and how much lighter are they?
Not yet- give it a year or two!
Not sure how much lighter but must be a fair bit- it's got an alloy block!
James
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mangogroove
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| posted on 19/5/04 at 04:13 PM |
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http://www.minister-power.com/
Ok whos first at these prices I recon we could
HIGH PERFORMANCE AND COMPETITION ENGINES
USING THE DURATEC I4
(FORD OR MAZDA DERIVATIVES)
2.3 Litre AND 2.0 Litre ENGINES
Download Duratec brochure in PDF format 253KB
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Minister-Power have built high performance FORD based engines for thirty years,
therefore high performance versions of FORD's global DURATEC engine was a natural evolution.
Having evaluated the 2.0 Litre version in Summer 2001, Minister-Power discovered the engine had a 2.3 derivative; minimal external differences gave
an ideal basis for a range of engines using common ancillaries.The 2.0 Litre and 2.3 Litre versions are from the same global engine family that
incorporates the latest technology from FORD/MAZDA e.g. the block casting uses similar methods of manufacture as some F1 engines.
Following extensive Dynamometer testing, an engine was fitted into a road going Caterham 7, it passed the SVA test and has proven totally reliable.
A Minister-Power Hi-Torque Duratec made its competition debut in France, winning several class races, and competing over 50 hours track work, in a LHD
Caterham.
This was followed by a winning debut win for the Minister-Power Super-Torque engine in a six-hour race at Magny-Cours, winning by three laps. Race and
class wins at Brands Hatch were also achieved.
Minister have successfully created a fitting kit
for the Duratec engine for Lotus 7 style vehicles
See where your engine will be built – click on Factory Tour !!!
"TORQUE RANGE" DURATEC ENGINES
2.3 Litre Mega-Torque Engine – 270 BHP @ 7500 RPM/210+ lb.ft. Torque @ 6000 RPM
Price from £9,272-00 + VAT
Parts included in "List of Features" below
2.3 Litre Super-Torque Engine – 250 BHP @ 7400 RPM/200 lb.ft. Torque @ 5900 RPM
Price from £8,378-00 + VAT
Parts included in "List of Features" below, except number (1)
2.3 Litre Hi-Torque Engine – 215 BHP @ 6900 RPM/190 lb.ft. Torque @ 4800 RPM
Price from £5,995-00 + VAT
Parts included in "List of Features" below, except numbers (1) (2) (3) (4)
List of Features included:
· Latest Ford Duratec Engines – 2.3 Litre
· Cylinder Head machining (1)
· All Alloy construction
· Engine Management System
· Fuel and Ignition Map
· High Quality Engine Loom
· Roller Barrel Induction System
· High Lift Camshafts
· Steel Con Rods (2)
· Forged Pistons (3)
· Fuel Pressure Regulator
· High Performance Valve Springs
· Crankshaft keyed (4)
· Pulley kit
Optional Equipment:
· Double Scavenge Dry Sump System £665-00
· Wet Sump system £395-00
· Lightened Flywheel £235-00
· Heavy Duty 8.5 inch" Clutch assy. £155-00
· Light weight Alternator £185-00
· Alternator Bracket £ 89-00
· Air Filter assembly £ 75-00
· Starter Motor £155-00
· Water Rail £199-50
· Run in and Dynamometer tested for individual performance £355-00
ALL THE ABOVE PRICES ARE PLUS VAT AT CURRENT RATE
Note:
1. Bespoke engine specification can be arranged
2. Price and specification are subject to change
3. All figures achieved on Minister Racing Engines Dynamometer, using their exhaust etc.
4. Optional equipment will attract additional labour charge if fitted
See where your engine will be built – click on Factory Tour !!!
2.0 LITRE DURATEC ENGINES
2.0 Litre Engine – 270 BHP @ 8500 RPM/185 lb.ft. Torque @ 6500 RPM
Price from £11,500-00 + VAT
Parts included in "List of Features" below
2.0 Litre Engine – 250 BHP @ 8000 RPM/180 lb.ft. Torque @ 6500 RPM
Price from £8,500-00 + VAT
Parts included in "List of Features" below, except number (1)
2.0 Litre Engine – 220 BHP @ 7500 RPM/170 lb.ft. Torque @ 5500 RPM
Price from £5,850-00
Parts included in "List of Features" below, except numbers (1) (2) (3) (4)
2.0 Litre Engine – 195 BHP @ 7200 RPM/165 lb. ft. Torque @ 5200 RPM
Price from £5,220-00
Parts included in "List of Features" below, except numbers (1) (2) (3) (4) (5)
List of Features included:
· Latest Ford Duratec Engines – 2.0 Litre
· Cylinder Head machining (1)
· All Alloy construction
· Engine Management System
· Fuel and Ignition Map
· High Quality Engine Loom
· Roller Barrel Induction System
· High Lift Camshafts (5)
· Steel Con Rods (2)
· Forged Pistons (3)
· Fuel Pressure Regulator
· High Performance Valve Springs
· Crankshaft Keyed (4)
· Pulley Kit
Optional Equipment:
· Double Scavenge Dry Sump System £665-00
· Wet Sump system £395-00
· Lightened Flywheel £235-00
· Heavy Duty 8.5 inch" Clutch assy. £155-00
· Light weight Alternator £185-00
· Alternator Bracket £ 89-00
· Air Filter assembly £ 75-00
· Starter Motor £155-00
· Water Rail £199-50
· Run in and Dynamometer tested for individual performance £355-00
ALL THE ABOVE PRICES ARE PLUS VAT AT CURRENT RATE
Note:
1 Bespoke engine specification can be arranged
2 Price and specification are subject to change
3 All figures achieved on Minister Racing Engines Dynamometer, using their exhaust etc.
4 Optional equipment will attract additional labour charge if fitted
See where your engine will be built – click on Factory Tour !!!
COMPONENTS SOLD SEPARATELY
MRE prefers to build a complete engine to suit the customers requirements, however, if you prefer
to assemble and fit the engine yourself, here are a selection of components that can be purchased
individually from MRE. We are continually expanding the range of parts, so please contact us for
additional information:
Qty Description Retail Price
1 Dry sump kit inc. Sump, Pump, Pulleys, belt and mounting bracket £665-00
16 Valve springs £96-00
16 Valve spring caps £55-00
1 Pair fast road camshafts £360-00
1 Lightweight flywheel (for 7 ¼" competition clutch) E1921210200A1 £235-00
1 Lightweight flywheel (for 8 ½" organic clutch) £175-00
1 Performance clutch disc (organic) and clutch cover £155-00
1 Set Hi-load flywheel bolt set £45-00
1 Set forged pistons £525-00
1 Air filter including back plate £75-00
1 Aluminium bell-housing (suitable for hydraulic clutch) £295-00
1 Roller barrel manifold system £995-00
1 Exhaust system 4 into 1 including collector and silencer £650-00
1 Clutch slave cylinder £95-00
1 Aluminium oil filter adaptor £75-00
1 Dry sump tank TBA
1 Lightweight Alternator £185-00
1 Alternator bracket £89-00
1 Alternator aluminium pulley – 60mm 6 row Polly V £36-60
1 Set Steel con rods 2.3 £795-00
1 Set Steel con rods 2.0 £955-00
1 Set cylinder head studs £182-00
1 Wet sump pan assembly £395-00
1 Set heavy duty big end bearings £102-00
1 Starter motor £155-00
1 Triple pass radiator £221-00
ALL PRICES SUBJECT TO CHANGE AND ARE PLUS VAT
MINISTER-POWER OFFERS FITTING SERVICE
Minister-Power can offer a complete installation service, for the Duratec engine, into a Caterham Car,
e.g. if the customer supplies a suitable car, built to rolling chassis stage, less engine we will fit the engine
of their choice. An example of cost for this service is detailed below.
Dry Sump Engine Fitting Kit, includes parts **
Labour to fit Kit **
Price £2,300-00 + VAT
Price £ 972-00 + VAT
Wet Sump Engine Fitting Kit, includes parts *
Labour to fit Kit *
Price £1,860-00 + VAT
Price £ 592-00 + VAT
If the customer wishes a more comprehensive build level this can be carried out at an additional charge.
MOT's and SVA tests can also be arranged. Your Duratec car can also be serviced at Minister-Power
during the course of its life. (Discounted service charges for Minister-Power original fit customers.)
Wet Sump Engine Fitting Kit * Dry Sump Engine Fitting Kit **
Bell Housing Bell Housing
Clutch Slave Cylinder Clutch Slave Cylinder
Clutch Master Cylinder Clutch Master Cylinder
Clevis and Link Clevis and Link
Aeroquip Hose Aeroquip Hose
Unions, Banjo Bolts, Clevis Pin, Copper Washers Unions, Banjo Bolts, Clevis Pin, Copper Washers
Bell Housing Fixing Cap Heads Bell Housing Fixing Cap Heads
Exhaust – Primary Pipes, Collector and Silencer Exhaust – Primary Pipes, Collector and Silencer
Nuts, Bolts, Clamps, etc. Nuts, Bolts, Clamps, etc.
Pair of Engine Mounts Pair of Engine Mounts
Silicone Water Hose Kit, Hose Clips Silicone Water Hose Kit, Hose Clips
Throttle Cable, Firesleeve and Fixings Throttle Cable, Firesleeve and Fixings
Heat Shrink Easy Clean Tank and Fittings
Plastic Catch Tank and Mounting Brackets Plastic Catch Tank and Mounting Brackets
Heat Shrink
Optional Equipment: Optional Equipment:
Bell Housing Stone Guard £ 29-00 Bell Housing Stone Guard £ 29-00
Catalytic Converter £465-00 Catalytic Converter £465-00
Triple Pass Radiator £221-00 Triple Pass Radiator £221-00
Race Fan and Fitting Kit £102-00 Race Fan and Fitting Kit £102-00
ALL THE ABOVE PRICES ARE PLUS VAT AT CURRENT RATE
Note:
1 Price and specification are subject to change.
2 Optional equipment may attract additional labour charge if fitted.
3 Prices are based on fitting to new cars. Used cars may need additional parts or operations.
See where your engine will be built – click on Factory Tour !!!
Minister Racing Engines Limited
Unit G, 17 Revenge Road, Altbarn Industrial Estate,
Lordswood, Chatham, Kent ME5 8UD, United Kingdom.
Tel: +44 (0)1634 682577 Fax: +44(0)1634 684674
e-mail: info@minister-power.com
© Minister Racing Engines 2001.
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Peteff
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| posted on 19/5/04 at 05:18 PM |
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Please rush me.......
I reckon if we order three they might knock us a tenner off.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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