I-man
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| posted on 19/12/07 at 10:21 PM |
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New guy, New project
Hi everyone,
Let me introduce myself,.. I'm Ian, I live in the Netherlands and I'm building a self designed mid engine car that is emulating the old
Auto Union Type C from 1938.
I call it the "Stagger". The chassis is laid out, tacked together and I have an effing big Audi 4.2 V8 engine on the garage floor waiting
to be fitted in. I also have a few pics but I'm still trying to figure out how to reduce and up load them so I can show you all. (perhaps next
week)
I’m much better at cars than computers.
Anyway, I have been reading this forum for a while now and thought it was time to get more involved. You guys have a lot of great ideas and I have
learned a lot just reading the threads. I look forward to your input…
I-man
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matt.c
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| posted on 19/12/07 at 10:24 PM |
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Dont know much about the mid engine stuff but HI anyway 
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twybrow
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| posted on 19/12/07 at 10:28 PM |
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Sounds like an interesting project! Good luck.
I was looking at your photos (too big to fully upload I think) - are your uprights aluminium? Doesn't look like much wall thickness to some of
the holes...?
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RazMan
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| posted on 19/12/07 at 10:29 PM |
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Welcome to the mad-house I-man
I like the sound of your project - the 4.2 Audi V8 is what I intend to use on my next project. Are you using the original ecu or going for an
aftermarket one?
It should be quite a beast if it's anything like this one.
Keep us up to date with pics PLEASE 
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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caber
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| posted on 19/12/07 at 10:32 PM |
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Way cool project!
What are you using for transmission?
Caber
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I-man
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| posted on 19/12/07 at 10:34 PM |
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Yeah, I gotta do something about the pics. The uprights are alu and they are 20 mm thick on the front (with the hub) and 25 mm thick on the rear so
there is plenty of meat for the bolts.
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I-man
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| posted on 19/12/07 at 10:41 PM |
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The gearbox is also Audi but I will have to change the final drive to accept the large diameter wheels and the ECU is standard Audi. The engine is an
older 4 valve with about 300 hp standard..Thats pleaty for me. I expect the car to weight about 800kg...
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pauldm
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| posted on 19/12/07 at 11:00 PM |
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I have a worry about how those thin tyres are going to transfer 300HP of power to the road? Methinks yule
 (oops)
you'll wrap it around a tree soon after finishing. QUOTE (from http://www.ddavid.com/formula1/auto_c.htm
<link>) Much has been written about the difficult handling characteristics of this car
but its tremendous acceleration was undeniable. A driver could induce wheelspin at 150 mph! Methinks a Ford 2.8 litre Cologne V6 or Audi 80 V6
2.6L Engine
would be a more sensible option?
For resizing pictures download Irfanview. Its simple picture editing software when you don't want to boot up photoshop etc.
>here<
*** I want to die peacefully, in my sleep, like my grandfather,
not screaming, terrified, like his passengers.***
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TheGecko
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| posted on 19/12/07 at 11:40 PM |
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Should be a fun project. You may be interested in this (linky) - a
similar project here is Australia using a Jag V12!
Dominic
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Geoff011
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 04:22 AM |
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Nice find Dominic. I thought the front end (suspension) looked a little strange, then I found it was Malcolm Oastler's car. He should know what
he's doing!
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t.j.
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 05:29 AM |
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Hi,
Not that I'm building a middy, but nice to see that there are more ibuilders in the Netherlands.
There's a lot off info around here.
Welcome and happy building.
Please feel free to correct my bad English, i'm still learning. Your Dutch is awfull! :-)
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TheGecko
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 05:57 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Geoff011
Nice find Dominic. I thought the front end (suspension) looked a little strange, then I found it was Malcolm Oastler's car. He should know what
he's doing!
G'day Geoff,
The timing was fortuitous because there was a wrap-up of Speed on Tweed in the latest issue of "Race"which I was reading last night. I
just Googled for Malcolm Oastler and found the pics (and the fact that he used to be technical director of the Jag F1 team ).
Hope things are good with you and the Elise is treating you well I may even make some progress on the Mk2 version of my chassis this Xmas break
(fingers crossed).
Dominic
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I-man
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 07:41 AM |
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I have new pics in my Archive but for some reason they won't attach to this post.. so just look there.
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RazMan
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 07:55 AM |
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I-man, If for any reason you want to swap the engine, I can be on the ferry within hours! 
 
Audi V8 32 valve 300 HP
[Edited on 20-12-07 by RazMan]
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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iank
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 07:57 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by I-man
I have new pics in my Archive but for some reason they won't attach to this post.. so just look there.
If you hit the quote or try to edit this post you'll see the magic runes you need for picture.
 
upper and lower chassis rails
Nice project BTW
--
Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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designer
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 08:32 AM |
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Why have you gone for curved side rails?
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russbost
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 09:03 AM |
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Like the project. Welcome to the forum. You have fairly similar bhp to the original, so if that could have skinny tyres you can to - although you may
need to be able to drive as they did!
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 10:31 AM |
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Welcome.
You have a very interesting project. I look forward to seeing it progress.
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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I-man
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 11:54 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by designer
Why have you gone for curved side rails?
If i made them Straight the car would look like brick with wheels
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ettore bugatti
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 12:17 PM |
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Goedemoggel!
That is just insane!
I just can't think where on earth you could use that thing.
Mighty fun, though.
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dr-fastlane
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 06:11 PM |
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Hello Ian,
Welcome to the Locost Forum!. It’s nice to see more and more Dutch people finding there way to this really nice carbuilding community. I like the
vintage style of machine that you are building, a project to follow.
Greets Roy (from the east of the Netherlands )
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I have not failed once. I have successfully found ways that will not work!
https://www.motor-forum.nl/threads/hardtail-dragstyle-project.343482/
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I-man
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 08:09 PM |
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Thanks for the pleasant welcome everyone,
It's nice to know that there are so many like minded people out there to spur you on.
This project has been bruing for a couple of years now but due to moving and having to build the workshop last year the progress was slow. This year I
had 3 major milestones (mijlpalen) 1.The engine in the workshop (check) 2. the chassis laid out and tacked up (almost there) and 3. the brakes and
uprights machined up (Still waiting for the disk hats to be machined). I still have the x-mas holiday… 2 weeks to go .. I will let you know if I do
it..
My plan for the car is to get it licensed for the road. First in the UK and then later import it to the Netherlands. It will have 2 seats although the
passenger won’t have much room, it will be comfortable. The passenger seat will be offset or “Staggered” 40 mm behind the driver, Hence the name
“Stagger”.. (hopefully I will never have to stagger home if I bent it..haha)
If any of you Dutch guys want to come and see it I live in the Eindhoven area. Just mail me..
(Oh and sorry Razman, This engine is mine!!)
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t.j.
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 09:51 PM |
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You got U2U
Please feel free to correct my bad English, i'm still learning. Your Dutch is awfull! :-)
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akumabito
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 10:04 PM |
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Goeiemoggel! Nog een Nederlander hier..
...what's the plan for the bodywork? GRP, or -dare I ask?- handcrafted aluminium? *drool*
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t.j.
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 10:08 PM |
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Thai-land is geen Neder-land! 
Please feel free to correct my bad English, i'm still learning. Your Dutch is awfull! :-)
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