akumabito
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| posted on 7/9/07 at 01:07 PM |
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Classic middy bodies?
Just wondering what the options are for a bit more of a classic-looking middy? I just read a little about the Ginetta G12 (currently produced by
DARE), and that is a look I really like.
Of course there's the GT40, but it's a pretty expensive option.. also, I like the idea of taking a V8 engine and stuffing it in the
smallest possible package..
The Fisher Menace looks nice, but it's for bike engines only.. The various Lotus 11 and 23 kits look great, but like the Menace, they're
roadsters, and I'd prefer a coupe..
There really don't seem to be that many (affordable) options out there.. and I'm not even sure the G12 fits this category, as the DARE
website lists no prices.. 
Hmm, maybe I should look into FR layouts.. or forget about the roof..
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Hammerhead
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| posted on 7/9/07 at 01:58 PM |
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GD T70 
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akumabito
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| posted on 7/9/07 at 02:47 PM |
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The T70 definitely is a sexy machine.. I was just looking at it yesterday, thinking how well-proportioned it looked. It doesn't fit the
"coupe-criterium", but other than that it's top notch.
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caber
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| posted on 7/9/07 at 03:04 PM |
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The best looking Coupe is the Ferrari P3 /P4 as formerly built by Foreman Cars aka Car Builder Solutions. This
project is up for sale at the moment however you might find they have some panels kicking around. I must admit I would like one of these !
Caber
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akumabito
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| posted on 7/9/07 at 05:28 PM |
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Oh, wow.. definitely a fantastic looking kit.. And it even comes with a roof.. Heh, on their website they're selling a factory demonstrator with
original Ferrari engine; 55,000 quid.. sliiiiightly out of my budget, I'm afraid.. 
Hmm, their moldings are for sale for "a substantial investment", which probably translates to "if you have to ask, you can not
afford it"... I think I'll just not bother..
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Confused but excited.
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| posted on 7/9/07 at 05:45 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by akumabito
Of course there's the GT40, but it's a pretty expensive option.. also, I like the idea of taking a V8 engine and stuffing it in the
smallest possible package..
Then you will have to beat a blown V8 fitted into an Isetta bubble car. 
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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kb58
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| posted on 7/9/07 at 06:09 PM |
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You need to come to terms with what you want! On the one hand you want the classic midi look, but don't have the budget, so it's time to
settle down and figure out what you can afford. I was in the same boat as you and ended up designing and building a mid-engine Mini. Not
"classic" but it was affordable.
I think just about any classic midi will be pushed off your plate once you factor in the price of the tranny and brakes. These alone make for
something that's no where near Locost.
Mid-engine Locost - http://www.midlana.com
And the book - http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/midlana/paperback/product-21330662.html
Kimini - a tube-frame, carbon shell, Honda Prelude VTEC mid-engine Mini: http://www.kimini.com
And its book -
http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/kimini-how-to-design-and-build-a-mid-engine-sports-car-from-scratch/paperback/product-4858803.html
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akumabito
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| posted on 7/9/07 at 06:15 PM |
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Yeah, I know.. so far I'm not really planning anything though. I've got too many other commitments, plus I'm in the wrong country to
start any sort of DIY car project.. on top of that, my interests seem to change from week to week.. (damn my ADD! )
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kb58
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| posted on 7/9/07 at 08:06 PM |
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But that's not a problem. You just have to keep rolling the project(s) around in your head until you settle on one. Better to do this now
instead of after you've bought parts!
Mid-engine Locost - http://www.midlana.com
And the book - http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/midlana/paperback/product-21330662.html
Kimini - a tube-frame, carbon shell, Honda Prelude VTEC mid-engine Mini: http://www.kimini.com
And its book -
http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/kimini-how-to-design-and-build-a-mid-engine-sports-car-from-scratch/paperback/product-4858803.html
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mark chandler
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| posted on 7/9/07 at 10:13 PM |
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I,ve seen the Ferrari P3 /P4 in the flesh whenI popped in to buy some bits.
It looks fantastic but its also huge ! must have the wheelbase of a granada or bigger.
Regards
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jimmyjoebob
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| posted on 7/9/07 at 10:57 PM |
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The Isetta featuring a supercharged v8 is this one, right?
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If at first you don't succeed, hide all evidence you ever tried!
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JC
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| posted on 10/9/07 at 08:19 AM |
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How about Cox/GTM Coupe?
Classic looks - I even saw one at Stoeleigh powered by a Honda B16 engine.
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iank
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| posted on 10/9/07 at 01:22 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JC
How about Cox/GTM Coupe?
Classic looks - I even saw one at Stoeleigh powered by a Honda B16 engine.
This one?
http://www.16vminiclub.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4579
Very neat install
--
Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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JC
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| posted on 10/9/07 at 07:37 PM |
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This is the one I saw.
BTW Stoeleigh is almost exactly the same place as Stonleigh, only the typing is worse.....
 
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Doug68
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| posted on 10/9/07 at 11:29 PM |
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Having been a Thailand a few times and Koh Samui once, firstly its a beautiful place and secondly the road regulations seem a little
'different' would the law stop people building their own cars there?
On Koh Samui I seem to recall a reasonably well developed boat industry so getting fiberglass done mightn't be a big issue.
Doug. 1TG
Sports Car Builders WA
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akumabito
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| posted on 14/9/07 at 05:00 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Doug68
The road regulations seem a little 'different' would the law stop people building their own cars there?
Building a car was something I've been looking into for quite some time. I know there are some Cateringvans in the BKK area.. it is not
impossible from a legal perspective, but damn near so from a financial point of view - upon registration you have to pay duties to the amount of a
little over 200% of the assessed value of the vehicle. And Thai officials being what they are, their assessment is pretty much whatever they feel like
it should be. If it looks sporty, they are likely to value the vehicle at a million baht or so, making the duties payable about 2 million baht, which,
according to XE.com is about 31,000GBP. Don't get me wrong, I love cars, but no home-built vehicle is worth paying that much just in taxes..
The only way around this is using a donor vehicle already registered and with a seperate chassis.. Basically the chassis and engine can not be
altered, but the bodywork can... Problem is, of course, that this leaves VERY few donor options available.. No way I'd even begin to think about
building a kit based on the omnipresent Isuzu pickups..
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Doug68
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| posted on 17/9/07 at 02:06 PM |
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You've just written your own plan!
Build a really horrible looking LoCost based on said Isuzu pickup, the value of which should approximate the scrap it was built from.
Then once its on the road re-do it into a nice car.
Too easy!
Doug. 1TG
Sports Car Builders WA
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