Dreckly
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| posted on 17/11/05 at 11:08 PM |
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Originally posted by welderman
.....the front set up is similar to the Zcars Mini. I have based my build around this....
Hi Joe,
Please remember that the Z Cars way is not the only way, not necessarily the best way, it is just the route they chose to follow!
Have you got any idea of your front - rear weight distribution yet?
I'm afraid she might be starting to look a bit like my missus...... 
Cheers,
Ken.
"UltiMini" is the ultimate space framed Mini.
www.ultimini.co.uk
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Dreckly
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| posted on 17/11/05 at 11:16 PM |
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Sorry Joe,
Last comment was really unfair on your Mini.....
"UltiMini" is the ultimate space framed Mini.
www.ultimini.co.uk
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 17/11/05 at 11:26 PM |
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You wern't slating my cousin Chris were you? Did I tell you he plays the Banjo!
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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Rorty
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| posted on 18/11/05 at 04:39 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by welderman
Thers is also a 50mm gap between rad and tank. Looking at my picture it looks as if it is touching.
That still won't be sufficient as it's a dead end. The hot air will hit the tank and rebound. Some will escape around the side, but it and
the rest will swirl around under the bonnet, reheating your radiator. You could fit two 4-core radiators and the result would be the same if the hot
air can't get away.
The standard grill should be more than big enough (its area looks like its greater than the front of the radiator) if you can just duct the
airflow.
I've been through all this with a Hilman Imp and Stiletto when I was 17 and those experiences allowed me to mount relatively small radiators in
the front of V8 mid-engined Beetles I built years later.
Cheers, Rorty.
"Faster than a speeding Pullet".
PLEASE DON'T U2U ME IF YOU WANT A QUICK RESPONSE. TRY EMAILING ME INSTEAD!
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andygtt
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| posted on 18/11/05 at 06:03 AM |
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Gotta say I agree with Rorty the rad possition is asking for a serious problem........
If your struggling for space, use two smaller rads possitioned for through air flow.
Andy
please redefine your limits.
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welderman
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| posted on 18/11/05 at 07:59 AM |
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I still have the old R1 rad, may see if that will fit in there some how. Got me a little concerned now. Keep them coming though all part of the
fun.
[Edited on 18/11/05 by welderman]
Thank's, Joe 
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Fred W B
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| posted on 18/11/05 at 08:30 AM |
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Have you got space to angle the rad at about 45 degrees?. Then duct in from the front and out through the top of the bonnet (but know you dont want to
spoil the looks) or the wheel arches
Fred WB
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welderman
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| posted on 18/11/05 at 09:13 AM |
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As there are no inner arches i wonder if i fitted some 100mm ducting near both front wheels and re-direct the air towards the space behind the back
of the radiator.
Thank's, Joe
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R1minimagic
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| posted on 18/11/05 at 09:23 AM |
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Another thing that you may not have thought about is the heat that IS escaping from your radiator is going to be heating your fuel up, which is very
bad....!!
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welderman
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| posted on 18/11/05 at 09:31 AM |
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Whats the front set up like on yous then. Is it standard Zcars.
Thank's, Joe
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R1minimagic
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| posted on 18/11/05 at 09:35 AM |
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Yes it is standard Z cars, but i have got about 8-10" gap between the radiator and the fuel tank which contains my battery, starter solenoid,
fuel pump etc etc. Also, the top half of the radiator doesnt have anything behind it, except the bulkhead!
It looks like your fuel tank is a lot deeper, can't you get the radiator further forward??
[Edited on 18/11/05 by R1minimagic]
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R1minimagic
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| posted on 18/11/05 at 09:43 AM |
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Actually, your fuel tank is probably about the same size but your radiator is a lot further back and a lot deeper than mine. I would try to get it
further forward or get a thinner one.
 
Rescued attachment mini radiator.jpg
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lsdweb
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| posted on 18/11/05 at 01:33 PM |
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What about laying the radiator horizontally and ducting the air either up or down through it? Probably hard to setup and bleed but may be the best
option for space. You could get a fair sized rad to fit just inside the inside 'rails' of the subframe.
Regards
Wyn
(deep in thought!)
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welderman
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| posted on 18/11/05 at 02:12 PM |
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I could actually put a hole in the tank front to back or several smaller ones, might even look trick.(BLING BLING)
Thank's, Joe
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R1minimagic
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| posted on 18/11/05 at 02:22 PM |
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Yeh, that should heat up the fuel pretty good 
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welderman
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| posted on 18/11/05 at 02:25 PM |
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Fancy a bbq. lol.
Will have a good think about this problem.
Thank's, Joe
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welderman
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| posted on 18/11/05 at 02:39 PM |
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what do you think. Lift the rad about 100mm so its just under the bonnet and sits about 120mm above the top of my fuel tank.
 
Rescued attachment side.front.jpg
Thank's, Joe
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R1minimagic
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| posted on 18/11/05 at 08:45 PM |
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It looks like your fuel tank is forward of the bulkhead by quite a distance. How much gap have you got down the back??
I deliberately mounted my tank as far back as possible (about 5mm off the bulkhead at the top) in case of an accident. The cooling pipes run down the
side of the tank rather than down the back, unlike other zcars minis.
You might be able to get away with just moving the tank back an inch or two, if not then i think the fiat uno radiator would give you more
clearance...
Give me the dimensions of your tank and rad and i will compare against mine.
[Edited on 18/11/05 by R1minimagic]
[Edited on 18/11/05 by R1minimagic]
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welderman
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| posted on 18/11/05 at 08:56 PM |
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your rad is deffo smaller than mine, could cut and re-weld tank to fit a bit better, but gap will be about 100mm between rad and tank.
Thank's, Joe
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R1minimagic
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| posted on 18/11/05 at 09:05 PM |
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My rad is huge in terms of area but very thin (about 11/2". Yours seems the opposite, smaller area but very thick..
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welderman
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| posted on 18/11/05 at 10:11 PM |
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will measure up on monday. I know it is thick though.
Thank's, Joe
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lsdweb
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| posted on 20/11/05 at 09:51 AM |
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Hi Guys
Great debate - I realise I kicked this topic off but don't seem to be contributing much! I am taking a great deal of interest though!!
Wyn
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welderman
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| posted on 21/11/05 at 08:40 AM |
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R1minimagic, my rad measures 430mmX460mmX70mm. Looking at your's it looks to have a bigger open area, give us the sizes may swap this around at
get a smaller one.
Thank's, Joe
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R1minimagic
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| posted on 21/11/05 at 07:17 PM |
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The size of the core is 435x325x30mm(wxhxd). The overall size is 590x420x70mm
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welderman
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| posted on 21/11/05 at 11:09 PM |
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Going to get an ally core rad, see what Ebay has to offer.
Thank's, Joe
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