cloudy
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| posted on 13/7/09 at 11:54 AM |
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Have some R888's on the way, first trackday at barkston heath next sat  Just need to be really wary of oil surge...
James
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stuleah
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| posted on 17/7/09 at 09:59 PM |
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cloudy your car is on page 22 of complete kit car and the write up says they are keen to learn more about it.
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cloudy
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| posted on 18/7/09 at 01:12 AM |
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Thanks for the heads up! I didn't know about that 
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geoffreyh
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| posted on 19/7/09 at 11:37 AM |
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Hi,
First of all congratulations for everything.
It would be great if you could give some more information on your experience with the clicktronic. It looks like it worked quite well at your first
track day.
Geoff
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cloudy
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| posted on 19/7/09 at 12:29 PM |
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I have a lot of problems getting 1st to 2nd at full throttle - it misses and gets neutral a lot but I suspect thats my old engine rather than the
klicktronic - above that the cut is about 40ms and you dont feel the change
I was shifting 1st to 2nd with manual liftoff + clutch in case it missed hence the pants 0-60
James
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geoffreyh
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| posted on 19/7/09 at 02:02 PM |
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Is there a way to tweak the movement of the clicktronic or are you doing it manually?
maybe to space between 1 and 2 is a little different?
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stuleah
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| posted on 19/7/09 at 04:36 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by cloudy
Thanks for the heads up! I didn't know about that
No problem
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matt_gsxr
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| posted on 18/9/09 at 10:22 PM |
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So, Cloudy,
I hear that you have only gone and deserted the GSXR1100. Not many people running these engines and you go on and swap to the ubiquitous R1.
I must admit that I have fuel injected mine (carbs were getting too complicated and leaky for me, and tuning them up was a nightmare).
So, my question is. Was it worth it? and why no updates on this build diary?
Matt
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cloudy
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| posted on 18/9/09 at 11:36 PM |
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I'll have some new pics soon - but yes I've deserted the GSX-R, as it was forever the only source of problems in the car, Will miss the
torque from the 1200 cc's but I'm looking forward to not having to stop for oil after each journey!
James
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nitram38
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| posted on 19/9/09 at 10:46 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by cloudy
I'll have some new pics soon - but yes I've deserted the GSX-R, as it was forever the only source of problems in the car, Will miss the
torque from the 1200 cc's but I'm looking forward to not having to stop for oil after each journey!
James
You can say that again! 
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cloudy
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| posted on 18/10/09 at 08:00 PM |
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R1 engine is running! should be back on the road next week pending fuel tank....
James
 
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nitram38
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| posted on 19/10/09 at 10:45 AM |
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Wow flames!
Nice one James. I'm looking forward to seeing the car on the road again!
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scudderfish
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| posted on 19/10/09 at 11:45 AM |
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Flames, an open fuel tank and an enclosed garage... What could possibly go wrong?
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cloudy
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| posted on 19/10/09 at 01:41 PM |
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I'd bank on it being safer than the car in motion
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cloudy
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| posted on 21/10/09 at 10:48 PM |
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mnn yes it seems to work 70mph in 1st anybody?
James
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nitram38
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| posted on 21/10/09 at 10:51 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by cloudy
mnn yes it seems to work 70mph in 1st anybody?
James
I know what that is like!
A1, Roundabouts, what roundabouts?
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cloudy
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| posted on 21/10/09 at 11:07 PM |
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won't spin the wheels on a rolling start till about 40mph, probably need to gear it down a little, will run a few 0-60's to see how badly
it affects standing starts...
James
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nitram38
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| posted on 21/10/09 at 11:29 PM |
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You need a power commander if its injection and get it remapped.
I need to rolling road mine
205/50/15's with a 51 tooth sprocket on mine
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cloudy
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| posted on 21/10/09 at 11:46 PM |
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What front?
James
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cloudy
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| posted on 22/10/09 at 10:29 PM |
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Not greatly impressed with the ratio, I either break the tyres loose off the line, and spin all the way to 70mph (see pic below :O)
Or if I pull away normally, it bogs down till about 20mph - returns a 0-60 of about 3.5 much slower than the 162hp gsxr at around the 3 mark (with a
gearchange!)
Think i'll drop the gearing a tooth at the front, means a top speed of just 125 though - stupid r1 gearing 
 
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nitram38
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| posted on 22/10/09 at 10:37 PM |
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Front cog from memory is 17 teeth.
Someone on here worked out the ratio for me based on the gears in the gearbox, so if you want perfection, I think the gear ratios need altering
too.
A fuel remap will help
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cloudy
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| posted on 22/10/09 at 10:42 PM |
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17 is stock!! running through my calc gives
83 in 1st!
You will transform the perfomance by dropping that to a 13/14!
James
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nitram38
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| posted on 22/10/09 at 10:44 PM |
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Question is, do you have one? and how many teeth does your sprocket have?
If you decrease teeth on one and increase teeth on the other don't u end up with the same output or have I missed something?
Why not change your larger sprocket instead?
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cloudy
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| posted on 22/10/09 at 10:46 PM |
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I may have a spare boxed 14P depends if they will take it back for a 13 or not...
52 is largest I can fit at the back...
James
[Edited on 22/10/09 by cloudy]
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nitram38
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| posted on 22/10/09 at 10:51 PM |
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Some Gear calcs sent to me maybe they can help:
GearCalc v2.0.0.1 Copyright ©2001, Peter Ogden
Gear Ratio, Speed and RPM Calculator
Gear set: Manually entered values
Gear 1 2 3 4 5 6 Final
Ratios: 4.004 3.261 2.785 2.406 2.156 2.006 3.058
RPM Limit: 13750
RPM @Peak Power: 12000
Tyre Size: 195/50 x 15
Tyre Diameter: 577.00 mm
Tyre Circumference: 1812.70 mm
Gear Km/h per 1000 RPM Km/h @12000 RPM Km/h @13750 RPM
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1 8.88 107 122
2 10.91 131 150
3 12.77 153 176
4 14.78 177 203
5 16.50 198 227
6 17.73 213 244
Km/h RPM (in Gears)
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1 2 3 4 5 6
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10 1126 917 783 676 606 564
20 2252 1834 1566 1353 1212 1128
30 3377 2751 2349 2029 1819 1692
40 4503 3668 3132 2706 2425 2256
50 5629 4584 3915 3382 3031 2820
60 6755 5501 4698 4059 3637 3384
70 7880 6418 5481 4735 4243 3948
80 9006 7335 6264 5412 4850 4512
90 10132 8252 7047 6088 5456 5076
100 11258 9169 7830 6765 6062 5640
110 12384 10086 8613 7441 6668 6204
120 13509 11003 9397 8118 7274 6768
130 11919 10180 8794 7880 7332
140 12836 10963 9471 8487 7896
150 11746 10147 9093 8460
160 12529 10824 9699 9024
170 13312 11500 10305 9588
180 12177 10911 10152
190 12853 11518 10716
200 13530 12124 11280
210 12730 11844
220 13336 12408
230 12972
240 13536
Gear Change RPM drop (change @12000) RPM drop (change @13750)
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1 -> 2 -2227 (to 9773) -2552 (to 11198)
2 -> 3 -1752 (to 10248) -2007 (to 11743)
3 -> 4 -1633 (to 10367) -1871 (to 11879)
4 -> 5 -1247 (to 10753) -1429 (to 12321)
5 -> 6 -835 (to 11165) -957 (to 12793)
GearCalc v2.0.0.1 Copyright ©2001, Peter Ogden
Gear Ratio, Speed and RPM Calculator
Gear set: Manually entered values
Gear 1 2 3 4 5 6 Final
Ratios: 4.004 3.261 2.785 2.406 2.156 2.006 3.375
RPM Limit: 13750
RPM @Peak Power: 12000
Tyre Size: unknown
Tyre Diameter: 540.00 mm
Tyre Circumference: 1696.46 mm
Gear Km/h per 1000 RPM Km/h @12000 RPM Km/h @13750 RPM
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1 7.53 90 104
2 9.25 111 127
3 10.83 130 149
4 12.54 150 172
5 13.99 168 192
6 15.03 180 207
Km/h RPM (in Gears)
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1 2 3 4 5 6
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10 1328 1081 923 798 715 665
20 2655 2163 1847 1596 1430 1330
30 3983 3244 2770 2393 2145 1995
40 5310 4325 3694 3191 2859 2661
50 6638 5406 4617 3989 3574 3326
60 7966 6488 5541 4787 4289 3991
70 9293 7569 6464 5584 5004 4656
80 10621 8650 7387 6382 5719 5321
90 11949 9731 8311 7180 6434 5986
100 13276 10813 9234 7978 7149 6651
110 11894 10158 8775 7864 7316
120 12975 11081 9573 8578 7982
130 12005 10371 9293 8647
140 12928 11169 10008 9312
150 11966 10723 9977
160 12764 11438 10642
170 13562 12153 11307
180 12868 11972
190 13583 12638
200 13303
Gear Change RPM drop (change @12000) RPM drop (change @13750)
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1 -> 2 -2227 (to 9773) -2552 (to 11198)
2 -> 3 -1752 (to 10248) -2007 (to 11743)
3 -> 4 -1633 (to 10367) -1871 (to 11879)
4 -> 5 -1247 (to 10753) -1429 (to 12321)
5 -> 6 -835 (to 11165) -957 (to 12793)
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