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Ratman

posted on 1/11/04 at 01:12 AM Reply With Quote
Back to the original question..
One thing to be careful of is to make sure that you can't see the surface of the lens, or even near to it, when you are driving. It will blind you at night, especially in the rain. I had this problem with cycle guard mounted side lights. But, easier to fix with side lights than with the main ones.
Great to see you getting final shape on the car. Looks very good. Brian

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sgraber

posted on 2/11/04 at 05:02 AM Reply With Quote
Thanks Brian, nice to have you on the site btw.

Good point about the glare but it shouldn't be a problem. The light sources will be shielded from that direction.

I'll be working on it this weekend in another marathon day.





Steve Graber
http://www.grabercars.com/

"Quickness through lightness"

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Ratman

posted on 4/11/04 at 12:33 AM Reply With Quote
Hi Steve.. I just had a look at your video. Where's all your junk like I seem to have cluttering up the garage? You've got some long hours coming up. So I can see that you want to be really sure of your shape at this point. I'm interested to know how you will be going from here. I've only done small pieces using "styrofoam" like you are, not a whole car in one piece. What glue do you use? I found PVA glue was best, using nails as pins to hold it together whilst the glue sets. Other glues like neutral-cure pannel adhesive are quicker.. but they are too hard to cut through afterwards. Pays just to use small "buttons" of glue, so you can pick out the hard spots later when sanding. What will you use to finish over the foam? One friend of mine uses paper mache. Do you plan to make a female mold? or just lay up a final skin and sand it smooth. Being kind of $-averse I prefer to just do it once.. partly also because, you get to see the final thing sooner.. and sure-as.. you will then want to make changes. Will you do the whole car as one piece, or have joints under the doors etc? Lots of separate pieces does make the body a lot lighter and cheeper. One big piece adds more strength to the car.. but you have to get it right first time. really good to see your progress. I bet you thought before that the chassis design was the hard bit. Cheers, Brian
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sgraber

posted on 7/11/04 at 04:18 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ratman
Hi Steve.. I just had a look at your video. Where's all your junk like I seem to have cluttering up the garage? You've got some long hours coming up. So I can see that you want to be really sure of your shape at this point. I'm interested to know how you will be going from here. I've only done small pieces using "styrofoam" like you are, not a whole car in one piece. What glue do you use? I found PVA glue was best, using nails as pins to hold it together whilst the glue sets. Other glues like neutral-cure pannel adhesive are quicker.. but they are too hard to cut through afterwards. Pays just to use small "buttons" of glue, so you can pick out the hard spots later when sanding. What will you use to finish over the foam? One friend of mine uses paper mache. Do you plan to make a female mold? or just lay up a final skin and sand it smooth. Being kind of $-averse I prefer to just do it once.. partly also because, you get to see the final thing sooner.. and sure-as.. you will then want to make changes. Will you do the whole car as one piece, or have joints under the doors etc? Lots of separate pieces does make the body a lot lighter and cheeper. One big piece adds more strength to the car.. but you have to get it right first time. really good to see your progress. I bet you thought before that the chassis design was the hard bit. Cheers, Brian


Hey Brian, that's a lot of questions!

The junk is cleverly hidden in many places. I am one of those people that can't seem to get any work done unless my workspace is uncluttered. Otherwise I see 20 other projects that need working on, I graze though all of them and never finish any! SO, only the one I have scheduled is allowed into the garage. It works for me.

Glue - Liquid Nails I made a lot of ribs based on my 3D model and the styro blocking is glued between each rib with the Liquid nails. In places I used 4cm finishing nails to hold pieces together while the LN hardened. I used a hot-knife to shape the styrofoam.

Next step? After covering the styro in drywal joint compound and sanding to a pleasant shape down to about 80 grit. (No glaring errors allowed here). I intend to spray on an oil based hi-fill primer that goes by the tradename Kilz. (At this point I am following Alan B. and the Meerkat plan pretty much verbatim.

I was always fully aware that the body would be more difficult than the chassis. On many levels! It's what most people judge you on. Workmanship and aesthetic.

Later





Steve Graber
http://www.grabercars.com/

"Quickness through lightness"

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