andrews_45
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 posted on 21/7/05 at 11:44 AM |
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How to find a 2.0 pinto engine?
Hi, thanks for looking. I am looking to find a donor car and having been advised to go for a pinto engine from a sierra decided this is the way to go
for me.
Does anyone know how to tell if a potential donor car has a 2.0l pinto engine? I assume that the pinto engine is what the OHC model is referred to
as, unless anyone can correct me please.
Thanks
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 21/7/05 at 11:55 AM |
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Yup OHC or more specifically SOHC refers to the pinto. (Note- NOT DOHC)
General opinion is that you want to find a later 2.0l model (E-F reg - someone can maybe confirm?) with a fuel injected engine.
Apparently the head on the EFi is much better and most (if not all) have the stronger 205 block. Carbs can still be fitted to the EFi head.
this last bit is easy to identify by '205' in large raised numbers on the side of the block.
You can tell if the head is ready for unleaded by the letters stamped on it. a bit of searching through old threads on this site should tell yuo what
you need to know.
You shouldn't have to pay very much (if anything) for a decent example. I got an E reg sierra with a good 2.0l Efi for £40...
HTH
[Edited on 21/7/05 by DaveFJ]
Dave
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scoobyis2cool
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| posted on 21/7/05 at 12:01 PM |
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Bear in mind that the standard injection system will not sit under your bonnet and so it does need to be replaced with either twin carbs (webers,
dellortos etc), or you can fit a single downdraught carb such as that fitted to the carb-fuelled pinto.
You can use a standard carb-fuelled engine (as I have) to save all the swapping but you won't get the better head that comes with the injection
engine.
I agree with the price, I managed to get a donor for £40 including a brand new clutch (not fitted) and the Haynes manual - things that would have cost
me more than £40 to buy anyway!
Pete
[Edited on 21/7/05 by scoobyis2cool]
It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care...
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 21/7/05 at 12:04 PM |
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Although the standard injection can be adapted to fit.............(quite a lot of work)
Dave
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scoobyis2cool
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| posted on 21/7/05 at 12:05 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by DaveFJ
Although the standard injection can be adapted to fit.............(quite a lot of work)
True, I considered this but in the end decided to keep my build simple as it was my first one, so went for the carb engine.
Pete
It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care...
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 21/7/05 at 12:07 PM |
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I'm still deciding.......
Dave
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scoobyis2cool
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| posted on 21/7/05 at 12:11 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by DaveFJ
I'm still deciding.......
What about some Webers? Probably easier to do and would produce more power. Of course it all adds cost but would be nice.
Pete
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andrews_45
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| posted on 21/7/05 at 12:22 PM |
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...so, am i right in thinking that a E-F reg sierra (assuming it has 205 on the side of the block), is the best bet?
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 21/7/05 at 12:28 PM |
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sounds right - as i say try to get the fuel injected version as it has a better head...
Dave
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NS Dev
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| posted on 21/7/05 at 12:35 PM |
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if you want to keep it cheap...............get the injection car/engine, then take off the injection and put the standard downdraft carb manifold on
the engine from an early 2.0 sierra or late cortina/escort rs2000/capri, then bolt on a 38DGAS carb (these were used on the 3ltr capris, but are now
best sourced from the rally spares places, expect to pay £20 ish)
This setup, with a fast road cam and light porting on an otherwise stdish injection spec pinto, should be good for 130-140hp (with decent 4-2-1
exhaust manifold)
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andrews_45
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| posted on 21/7/05 at 12:40 PM |
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Cheers chaps, will let you know how i get on
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scoobyis2cool
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| posted on 21/7/05 at 01:01 PM |
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If you are unsure what a pinto looks like have a look in my (and others) photo archive. At least then you'll know straight off whether
you're looking at a pinto or something else.
Pete
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andrews_45
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| posted on 21/7/05 at 01:13 PM |
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Will do ta m8
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JoelP
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| posted on 21/7/05 at 02:44 PM |
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two more small points, the pinto is 1993cc, the DOHC is 1998cc, this helps tell the difference on ebay, where the exact capacity is often listed. Some
F plate cars are DOHC, as this is around the changeover time.
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piddy
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| posted on 21/7/05 at 04:03 PM |
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pinto engine
Here's what your looking for. This is the injection version.
[Edited on 21/7/05 by piddy]
 
Rescued attachment pinto side sart.jpg
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piddy
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| posted on 21/7/05 at 04:03 PM |
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pinto
and another
 
Rescued attachment pinto side sart 1.jpg
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piddy
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| posted on 21/7/05 at 04:05 PM |
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pinto
looking better now it's finished.
The injection system was removed and sold. and | fitted an 32/36 DGV carb.
[Edited on 21/7/05 by piddy]
 
Rescued attachment pinto front.jpg
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scoobyis2cool
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| posted on 21/7/05 at 04:08 PM |
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Wow, that's one sparkly engine! Did you do all the work yourself?
Pete
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piddy
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| posted on 21/7/05 at 04:16 PM |
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pinto
Yes.
It's not as hard as it may seem.
I used degreaser then a wire brush and attachments on an electric drill. all then spray painted with Hammerite smooth.
still looks good after two years (6000) miles.
[Edited on 21/7/05 by piddy]
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scoobyis2cool
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| posted on 21/7/05 at 04:35 PM |
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Did you do much dismantling? (e.g. did you take off just the manifold and ancillaries or was it a complete strip down?)
Pete
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piddy
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| posted on 21/7/05 at 05:17 PM |
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pinto
There was no strip down needed.
the engine was from my brother in laws car ( I knew the history of it )and was low milage.
I just removed the injection item and fitted a manifold from my old engine an old Capri/cortina with two year old 32/36carb.
the exhaust manifold was removed and replaced with a 4 in to 1 stainless one
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DarrenW
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| posted on 22/7/05 at 11:09 AM |
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Good Pintos are starting to get harder to source, even harder is finding a sierra with injected pinto.
I paid good money from mine but it came with loads of new parts. I had to have the head overhauled. Ported it as per Des Hammill book, skimmed 40
thou, Fent FR32 and bolted 38DGAS on the side. Im just about to get a stainless 4 - 2- 1 system for it. Iam now encouraged by NS Devs post - i was
aiming for 120bhp at best but looks like i will get more.
Keep your eyes open and dont be too hasty and you will find a good injected lump. Im not sure that you will find many for £40 tho'.
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NS Dev
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| posted on 22/7/05 at 01:10 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by DarrenW
Good Pintos are starting to get harder to source, even harder is finding a sierra with injected pinto.
I paid good money from mine but it came with loads of new parts. I had to have the head overhauled. Ported it as per Des Hammill book, skimmed 40
thou, Fent FR32 and bolted 38DGAS on the side. Im just about to get a stainless 4 - 2- 1 system for it. Iam now encouraged by NS Devs post - i was
aiming for 120bhp at best but looks like i will get more.
Keep your eyes open and dont be too hasty and you will find a good injected lump. Im not sure that you will find many for £40 tho'.
The pinto in my brother's old road rally car (sierra) ran a Piper 285 cam and double valve springs (virtually the same as the FR32, iirc) a
decent porting job, skimmed about 40 thou, 38dgas, ashley 4-2-1 manifold and a std but rebuilt bottom end and made 135 hp I seem to remember. It was
certainly as quick, if not slightly quicker, than my 2.9 XR4x4.
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mookaloid
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| posted on 24/7/05 at 09:44 PM |
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I found my 205 block Injection Pinto in a granada.......
Just to widen your options a bit
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