GavBurns
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| posted on 27/11/06 at 10:36 PM |
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Trailer advice
My locoblade is for track use only, when i take it out for the day i have to hire a trailer at £45 per day. I need a trailer but it has to be not much
bigger than the car i.e the trailer bed should be over the trailers wheels. Has anybody come across such a trailer or will it have to be built?
Thanks
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mookaloid
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| posted on 27/11/06 at 10:41 PM |
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doesn't sound all that stable to me.
Is this so it will go in the garage?
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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GavBurns
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| posted on 27/11/06 at 10:44 PM |
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Yes i want to keep the car on the trailer in the garage.
Do you think it will be too unstable?
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GavBurns
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| posted on 27/11/06 at 10:48 PM |
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This grubby looking trailer is similar to what i mean.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ifor-williams-type-trailer-car-transporter-beavertail_W0QQitemZ300051960994QQihZ020QQcategoryZ11752QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Ebay link
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graememk
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| posted on 27/11/06 at 10:50 PM |
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i sold a trailer like that to "keets" and gave him a free locost
he might still have it, i used to tow my mk on it at 70+ no probs behind a 4x4 vectra
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pjavon
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| posted on 27/11/06 at 10:52 PM |
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Built this one myself, it will just about fit through a 7 Ft garage door, very handy for track days as i load up the night before and then just hitch
up in the morning and off we go, definatly worth doing if you've got the space
 
TRAILER
Always keep a big hammer and a condom in your toolbox, if you can't fix it with the hammer
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GavBurns
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| posted on 27/11/06 at 10:52 PM |
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Thats the sort of thing i mean, did you make it or buy it?
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cossiebri
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| posted on 27/11/06 at 10:53 PM |
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trailer
Ask JoelP, he borrowed a trailer from one of the guys on this site when he delivered my car. small,lightweight made of angle i think wouldn't
mind it myself 
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Avoneer
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| posted on 27/11/06 at 10:57 PM |
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And mine should be finished early in the new year. Very lightweight and available for hire from Dewsbury.
Pat...
No trees were killed in the sending of this message.
However a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
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GavBurns
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| posted on 27/11/06 at 10:58 PM |
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If I was to build a trailer would this kit be adequate or would I need a more heavy duty kit?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/All-parts-to-build-a-new-750kg-trailer-10-wheels-TK071_W0QQitemZ300053104244QQihZ020QQcategoryZ36632QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmd
ZViewItem
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pjavon
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| posted on 27/11/06 at 11:01 PM |
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made it myself, 40 x 40 x 6 angle with 25mm angle upside down for runners. used an inverted channel for the axle so the suspension units could bolt
inside to keep it as low as poss.
Haven't got many pics of it but if you need some let me know as the trailer is kept in the yard at work so will have to take my camera to
work.
Very easy to make but proberly cost me as much as buying a second hand one, but as i said this will fit in my garage so worth the effort
Any help let me know
Always keep a big hammer and a condom in your toolbox, if you can't fix it with the hammer
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pjavon
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| posted on 27/11/06 at 11:06 PM |
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much heavier than that as the trailer should be braked and really the indespension units could do with being rated at about 1200Kg.
Don't forget they have to carry the weight of the car and the overall weight of the trailer itself plus your fuel and whatever else you put on
the trailer( maybe spare set of wheels etc?)
Always keep a big hammer and a condom in your toolbox, if you can't fix it with the hammer
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GavBurns
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| posted on 27/11/06 at 11:07 PM |
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Its certainly a nice looking trailer. Do you think a 750kg wheel and hub kit will be adequate?
You answered my question while i was sending this.
Cheers
[Edited on 27/11/06 by GavBurns]
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pjavon
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| posted on 27/11/06 at 11:11 PM |
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no problem, i see you,ve got a BEC so could maybe go a bit lighter but if you want it legal i wouldn't go to light it's surprising what
you end up shoving on them
Always keep a big hammer and a condom in your toolbox, if you can't fix it with the hammer
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hillbillyracer
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| posted on 27/11/06 at 11:22 PM |
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Just an idea this, if all it's ever gonna carry is your seven how about making it so the trailer bed "fits" the bottom of the seven
chassis? Working out a method of getting it on & off will be the hard bit but if your car is light enough you may just get under the 750kg limit
below which you dont need brakes on the trailer, providing your tow vehicle is above a certain percentage of the towed weight.
I used 2 pairs of 750kg suspension units to make my 4 wheeled transporter so I knew they were well up to the job as it gets used for all sorts, it
tows great loaded but bounces a lot when empty.
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Steve Morten
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| posted on 27/11/06 at 11:36 PM |
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Don't mess about just go to Brian James and buy a Minno, they are made to fit in a single garage and they are made well, tow well and you
won't have any bother with the Law.
Or you could always go on ebay for one they usually go for about £800- upwards. I know it seems a lot but when you come to sell it you won't
lose much.
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Bob C
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| posted on 28/11/06 at 12:24 AM |
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weight limit for an unbraked trailer is 750kg or half the weight of the tow vehicle, pick the smaller. So your unlikely to be legal or safe...
However that's exactly what I'm doing - I've designed a trailer that juts fits the (440kg) locost, stressed for 2G & weighs
100kg so it should be OK so long as I stick everything else in the tow car.
Watch out though, the weights on these things builds up surprisingly quickly & you really don't want the trailer to take over the
controls!!!
Bob
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JoelP
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| posted on 28/11/06 at 08:40 AM |
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Well, IMHO 750kgs is an easy target even for a car engined locost. I would build single axle unbraked. If you use a big vehicle to tow it you will be
fine. That ebay kit looks good value but there are a few bits you might not need - i would use a light board rather than seperate lights.
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mike smith1
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| posted on 28/11/06 at 09:13 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by pjavon
Built this one myself, it will just about fit through a 7 Ft garage door, very handy for track days as i load up the night before and then just hitch
up in the morning and off we go, definatly worth doing if you've got the space
TRAILER
That is one impressive trailer, Mike
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Peteff
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| posted on 28/11/06 at 10:20 AM |
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Ifor Williams type on ebay
That's a farm trailer and the tyres and wheel bearings on it are designed to carry bales and pigs behind a tractor or Land Rover under 30mph. I
have 750kg units on my 3x4 trailer for taking rubbish to the tip and fetching buiding materials. You should be looking at 1000kg braked units or a 4
wheel setup but it's going to be costly to make unless you need a custom setup. The 750kg includes the trailer body not just the load in it.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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GavBurns
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| posted on 28/11/06 at 10:47 AM |
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The vehicle i will be using to pull it is a mercedes sprinter 311cdi.
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russbost
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| posted on 28/11/06 at 12:25 PM |
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I bought a plant trailer off ebay needing a bit of tidying up for £285, that was for a 4 wheel unit which originally had brakes on mini wheels, the
bed is 6' 2" wide which just takes the car a treat, the wheels sit outside the trailer bed so the whole thing is about 7' 6"
wide. The advantage to having the wheels outside the bed is obviously that you haven't got to go "up & over" - depends on the
width of your garage door whether this would work for you?
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Shandylegs
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| posted on 28/11/06 at 03:44 PM |
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What about a Locost route of Caravan chassis with the ramps built over the wheels?
Not exactly lightweight or beautiful but you're at least starting with a braking system already installed and will definately fit in a garage.
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GavBurns
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| posted on 28/11/06 at 04:18 PM |
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Hmm That could be done I suppose. Wouldn't look too bad with ramps and runners.
[Edited on 28/11/06 by GavBurns]
Go BEC you'll never look back (literally)!!
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rjbrookes
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| posted on 28/11/06 at 04:40 PM |
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i had mine custom made by handford trailers, just south of stoke on the a34.
They can make what ever size you want! i had mine so it could fit in a single garage, twin axel so it is rated to 2.5 tons and it can take a rover 600
too.... it came with totally every thing and i paid £1550....which i think is a bargin considering it not just a seven size trailer.
good luck
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