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Guinness

posted on 6/12/04 at 11:12 PM Reply With Quote
Sump Chop or Sump Guard

I am worried about the sump on my ZZR Indy. It is about 65mm below the chassis rails.

As the car is up on trestles at the minute I can't tell if this is going to be too low. Don't really want to get it onto the floor only to find out I need to raise it back up again.

What is the finished ride height of an Indy?

Chris Gamlin's uncle has kindly offered to chop the sump for me. However I want to check that it is neccessary before I go ahead.

As an alternative I could fabricate a sump guard if the ride height is OK.

Sump Below Chassis
Sump Below Chassis

Cheers Mike

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Peteff

posted on 7/12/04 at 12:24 AM Reply With Quote
ZX9R is like that and it's really low in my locost chassis so I had it chopped. It also adds the benefit of moving the sump plug to a better position. You could put a skid under it but that would make it even lower.





yours, Pete

I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.

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Rorty

posted on 7/12/04 at 04:09 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Guinness
I am worried about the sump on my ZZR Indy. It is about 65mm below the chassis rails.

Get a sump and oil pickup off a GPZ 900. It's a direct swap and is 74mm shorter.






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jimmyjonga

posted on 7/12/04 at 09:27 AM Reply With Quote
i assume the gpz900 sump is an alternate fit for the zzr and not the zx9r??? i am in a similar situation with the zx9r, a sump swop sounds like an ideal situation!

james

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Mk-Ninja

posted on 7/12/04 at 09:57 AM Reply With Quote
Chris Gamlins uncle did my sump. He makes a realy good job, definately recommended.

Gordon





I'm sure I've got one, just don't know where I've put it

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Jasper

posted on 7/12/04 at 10:30 AM Reply With Quote
And after you get it chopped - put a guard on it as well. Don't want to loose your sump for the sake of a bit of sheet..... you never have to worry about speed bumps again- I've scraped over many of them.





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Rorty

posted on 7/12/04 at 11:47 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jimmyjonga
i assume the gpz900 sump is an alternate fit for the zzr and not the zx9r???

Correct. The GPZ sump will fit the ZX10 and ZX11 and (ZZR1100). The ZX9 is a different family of engines.
It may be worth looking at the ZX6 and ZX7 for alternative sized sumps for the ZX9.





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Guinness

posted on 7/12/04 at 01:32 PM Reply With Quote
Cheers Rorty, that's me off to the local scrappys this weekend.

Jasper, you might want to edit your post. No wonder you haven't sold that car yet!!

I'm going to look into the price of 3mm stainless steel plates with 25mm diameter holes in for use under the new / chopped sump.

Mike

[Edited on 7/12/04 by Guinness]

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Jasper

posted on 7/12/04 at 02:37 PM Reply With Quote
I've got 5mm ali chequer plate under my engine - safe as houses - if it doesn't scrape occasionally it 'aint low enough





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welderman

posted on 7/12/04 at 04:15 PM Reply With Quote
Sorry to hi-jack this, but would you do the same to a blade engine too.
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Jasper

posted on 7/12/04 at 04:52 PM Reply With Quote
Blade doesn't normally need a sump chop - just put a sump guard on it.





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Peteff

posted on 7/12/04 at 05:13 PM Reply With Quote
Chris's uncle John did mine as well, nice job too. I've read of people having Fireblade drain plugs repositioned, don't know how vulnerable they are though.





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I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.

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welderman

posted on 7/12/04 at 05:38 PM Reply With Quote
Talked to MK said mybe move the sump plug, so will do that this week somtime i think.
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ReMan

posted on 7/12/04 at 10:11 PM Reply With Quote
My Blade sump`s on its way to Uncle Gamlin for plug movement, I intend to fit a guard too... Not realy worth the risk, and you can always move it to the new engine when you blow this one
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welderman

posted on 7/12/04 at 10:24 PM Reply With Quote
Wheres the best spot to move it to, anyone got some pics?
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Hellfire

posted on 8/12/04 at 12:16 PM Reply With Quote
Have a look in our build diary. November 2003 IIRC.






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