hi chaps!

I got a koso dash RXN1 i think (or alike) but it doesnt have a display as to what gear I am in. I have seen a tiny digital dial one someones car that counts 1-6. (or did I imagine it)

can anyone tell me what my options are and where and how much? I know someof you may say I dont need one but I feel I think it could be a safe idea having some type of guide and idea of what gear each is capable of for passengers!

cheers in advance!

Kriss u need gipro gear indicator . mk sportscar are dealers .they are about 100

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You could build one.....

http://website.lineone.net/~btbromilow/first.htm

You might need to tweek the programming slightly if you haven't got 6 gears and setting up the switches to actuate at the right time is tricky... but if you DIY it's cheap....

datatool also do one that looks the same thing as the gipro.

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Originally posted by stuart_g
datatool also do one that looks the same thing as the gipro.

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Acumen DG8 gear indicator ..

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Acumen-DG8-gear-indicator-Blue-Red-Green-White-Displays_W0QQitemZ260197135543QQihZ016QQcategoryZ25643QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ 1QQcmdZViewItem

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Originally posted by PAUL FISHER

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Originally posted by stuart_g
datatool also do one that looks the same thing as the gipro.

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Looks the same but the gipro has a built in retard eliminator,for most of the popular applications

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i can program suchs a chip for postage costs..

incl. the chip itself..

tks

The GIPro is far better than either the Acumen or the Datatool gear indicators. The Acumen and Datatool GI's calculate the gear you are in by comparing speed against RPM and tends to be a bit hit and miss in it's readings, whereas the GIPro uses the gear position sensor and is instant and accurate every time without fail.

Unfortunately, there isn't one available for the Yamaha's. GIPro only manufacture GI's for Suzuki, Kawasaki and Triumph models.

Phil

[Edited on 28-12-07 by Hellfire]

hmmm I am in two minds now about this.

Might look a tad rubbish as my koso and buttons will all be flush mounted then this block will just sit there on the CF dash.

secondly, I want one to know what gear I am in instantly like you said HELLFIRE.

are there any other options?

Is it really nessecary?

cheers

not necessary if you ask me

youll soon get used to it

If you want the best of both worlds, how about this: -

- Digidash etc calculate gear based on speed/rpm ratio and therefore if setup correctly (ratios etc) are usually pretty accurate, but can lag slightly behind real life until it works things out.

- That home made thing sets to 0 when in neutral, then senses when you press up/down and adds/subtracts accordingly - problem with this is if you miss a gear it goes to pot.

I wouldn't think it'd be beyond the realms of possibility to program a suitable PIC to combine the 2, i.e.: -

- Will display 0/N when a neutral signal is found.
- Will operate ala the homemade one, whereby a button on up/down makes it instantly change.
- At the same time a calculation is made against speed/rpm to confirm whether it really was a gearchange and this overrides the display if it seems inaccurate.

That way you get the speed of the instant button, but the accuracy of the actual ratio to iron out missed gears etc.

Of course it will involve having ADC (can you get PIC's with ADC's for measuring pulses etc?) to receive speed/rpm signals, and have a lookup table (probably programmed directly with the PIC programmer on a per-application basis) rather than clever interface, but I'm sure there are people on here that have the knowhow to do something like this?

Probably overkill, but another viewpoint for you

[Edited on 28/12/07 by gingerprince]

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Originally posted by zxrlocost
not necessary if you ask me

youll soon get used to it

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Originally posted by gingerprince
If you want the best of both worlds, how about this: -

- Digidash etc calculate gear based on speed/rpm ratio and therefore if setup correctly (ratios etc) are usually pretty accurate, but can lag slightly behind real life until it works things out.

- That home made thing sets to 0 when in neutral, then senses when you press up/down and adds/subtracts accordingly - problem with this is if you miss a gear it goes to pot.

I wouldn't think it'd be beyond the realms of possibility to program a suitable PIC to combine the 2, i.e.: -

- Will display 0/N when a neutral signal is found.
- Will operate ala the homemade one, whereby a button on up/down makes it instantly change.
- At the same time a calculation is made against speed/rpm to confirm whether it really was a gearchange and this overrides the display if it seems inaccurate.

That way you get the speed of the instant button, but the accuracy of the actual ratio to iron out missed gears etc.

Of course it will involve having ADC (can you get PIC's with ADC's for measuring pulses etc?) to receive speed/rpm signals, and have a lookup table (probably programmed directly with the PIC programmer on a per-application basis) rather than clever interface, but I'm sure there are people on here that have the knowhow to do something like this?

Probably overkill, but another viewpoint for you

[Edited on 28/12/07 by gingerprince]

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Originally posted by zxrlocost
not necessary if you ask me

youll soon get used to it

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Chris D, whata re my options and can you u2u me the associated prices? Might be best to go for one afterall.

I used one of these - http://www.geartronics.co.uk/products.htm

nice kit. easy fit for suzuki, oem plugs into the gear position sensor plug on the gearbox. not sure if they do that for all manufacturers though...

in my opinion, definitely worth having one in a bec!

Kriss for what it is worth I looked long and hard at these when I first started driving mine. I looked at ones other people had fitted (worth doing ) and to be honest I by the time I thought I had decided what to do I found myself driving the car fine without one.

On the road I occationally go for 7th but on the track, IMHO, it would serve no purpose whatsoever. Therefore have now decided not to bother.

My advice is pop round and look at fitted ones and how they look / work and see which you prefer. But I would have thought you may end up doing the same as me

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Originally posted by Crazy Eddie
Kriss for what it is worth I looked long and hard at these when I first started driving mine. I looked at ones other people had fitted (worth doing ) and to be honest I by the time I thought I had decided what to do I found myself driving the car fine without one.

On the road I occationally go for 7th but on the track, IMHO, it would serve no purpose whatsoever. Therefore have now decided not to bother.

My advice is pop round and look at fitted ones and how they look / work and see which you prefer. But I would have thought you may end up doing the same as me

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I'm in the not a necessity gang.

I have had them still got one in fact in the digi dash but never look at it, its all done with the ears and seat of your pants if you have time to go into a corner looking at a gear indicator thinking "mmmmmm 3 ? 4? then you aint going in quick enough.

The one aid I find useful on a BEC is a good in your face shift light, they rev up that fast when going for out n out speed n acceleration you can hit the limiter from time to time (its like hitting a brick wall as any bikers & bec drivers will know), a good in your face sequential shift light can help, well it does me anyway

cheers all for your replies.

think i will go without and then if i want to upgrade i can. If i do upgrade i will probably go for a more functional dash like ETB etc.

i remeber my clio v6 had 6 gears and at first i was really struggling what gear to use (had a 1.2 punto before) but soon adjusted to engine note and speed what gear to use.

cheers again