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mookaloid - 10/8/09 at 12:57 PM

Just thought I'd post a few piccys of progress so far. I'm having to change garages so I thought this might be a goood moment.

Thanks to RichardK who has been a big help with welding and teaching me to weld and for putting in the hours to help me achieve the deadline for moving out. Also to DarrenW who dropped in and fitted a wishbone or 2 the other day

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nick205 - 10/8/09 at 01:00 PM

Is it me or are your lower rear wishbones not bolted to the chasis brackets...?


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Guinness - 10/8/09 at 01:01 PM

Looking good there mate!

Nice wheels by the way

Mike


mookaloid - 10/8/09 at 01:06 PM

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Originally posted by nick205
Is it me or are your lower rear wishbones not bolted to the chasis brackets...?


Well spotted that man. In an attempt to improve the cars geometry at the rear I have lowered the wishbone mounts by welding a second set of mounts below the originals.


Mr Whippy - 10/8/09 at 01:10 PM

god for a second I thought that was a fluffy steering wheel

looks good though, especially like the cage


nick205 - 10/8/09 at 01:11 PM

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Originally posted by mookaloid
quote:
Originally posted by nick205
Is it me or are your lower rear wishbones not bolted to the chasis brackets...?


Well spotted that man. In an attempt to improve the cars geometry at the rear I have lowered the wishbone mounts by welding a second set of mounts below the originals.



Ahh! I see.

Out of interest (as a fellow Indy owner) are the new mounts the same width apart across the car, but simply lower down?

If so, by how much and what improvement does this yield?

Cheers
Nick


mookaloid - 10/8/09 at 01:21 PM

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Originally posted by nick205
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Originally posted by mookaloid
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Originally posted by nick205
Is it me or are your lower rear wishbones not bolted to the chasis brackets...?


Well spotted that man. In an attempt to improve the cars geometry at the rear I have lowered the wishbone mounts by welding a second set of mounts below the originals.



Ahh! I see.

Out of interest (as a fellow Indy owner) are the new mounts the same width apart across the car, but simply lower down?

If so, by how much and what improvement does this yield?

Cheers
Nick


yes lower down just welded a new set of brackets onto the bottom of the old ones - having messed about with moving the arrangement up and down a bit it seems to slightly reduce the tendancy of the rear to go +ve camber on heavy cornering, but obviously not tested yet as the car has yet to run


mookaloid - 10/8/09 at 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by Mr Whippy
god for a second I thought that was a fluffy steering wheel





RichardK - 10/8/09 at 02:24 PM

Looking good mate, you seem to have got a lot done even since Saturday. Now its on its wheels what the headroom like as I know this was a of a slight bit of concern.

Take care matey.

Rich

BTW I've spotted a wonky brake line and I'm sure you've had the duraglit out on them too


mookaloid - 10/8/09 at 02:56 PM

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Originally posted by RichardK
Looking good mate, you seem to have got a lot done even since Saturday. Now its on its wheels what the headroom like as I know this was a of a slight bit of concern.

Take care matey.

Rich

BTW I've spotted a wonky brake line and I'm sure you've had the duraglit out on them too


I'm still not 100% sure on head room - fingers crossed.....

There are NO wonky Brake lines - maybe the lens on my phone is a bit distorted

Cheers

Mark


Andy D - 10/8/09 at 04:01 PM

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You obviously haven't noticed someone's pinched your Pinto, and left a scooter motor in it's place!


mookaloid - 10/8/09 at 04:08 PM

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Originally posted by Andy D


You obviously haven't noticed someone's pinched your Pinto, and left a scooter motor in it's place!


Damn


MikeR - 10/8/09 at 04:50 PM

someone has also drilled a load of holes in your chassis to let the water in!


speedyxjs - 10/8/09 at 04:59 PM

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Originally posted by Andy D
You obviously haven't noticed someone's pinched your Pinto, and left a scooter motor in it's place!


Oh, thats what it is


iscmatt - 10/8/09 at 05:04 PM

I like the gearstick, i havent seen it done that way on a kit car before


nick205 - 10/8/09 at 08:13 PM

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You obviously haven't noticed someone's pinched your Pinto, and left a scooter motor in it's place!




ROTFL

Pretty nippy scooter though


RichardK - 10/8/09 at 10:00 PM

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Originally posted by MikeR
someone has also drilled a load of holes in your chassis to let the water in!




Some people take weight saving far too seriously

Rich


MikeRJ - 11/8/09 at 08:34 AM

quote:
Originally posted by mookaloid
yes lower down just welded a new set of brackets onto the bottom of the old ones - having messed about with moving the arrangement up and down a bit it seems to slightly reduce the tendancy of the rear to go +ve camber on heavy cornering, but obviously not tested yet as the car has yet to run


Increasing the spacing between upper and lower bones at the inboard end would usually reduce camber compensation i.e. you get less negative camber in bump. If the spacing is made wider than the outboard end it will gain positive camber in bump.

Neat looking installation, can't help feel my Striker is calling out for a bit of BEC action...

[Edited on 11/8/09 by MikeRJ]


bi22le - 11/8/09 at 08:51 PM

I like the gear stick too. Its like a paddle shift without the clutter around the back of the steering wheel. What colours are you considering? Something mean I hope with the black frame!


stevio73 - 31/10/09 at 01:43 PM

Hi,
Looks good, very good. I am a newby to all this but have been wanting to build something simelar. Notice you have the Blackbird engine, which is exactly what I was looking at. Also notice that the engine is a little scue-wiff, ie prop has a little bend in it at the centre bearing. Is this normal for BEC's? I'm looking at road going version rather than track so unsure of whether this would be the norm for such an application. (track you expect some wear and tear/vibration,etc)
Anyway, I'm in Selby and would love the chance to come and see your build, ask questions, etc. I know it sounds odd, but really need to see something up close to gain some idea's. If it helps I do have a small lathe and could machine some bit's and bob's if you ever get stuck?

Thanks

Steve


T66 - 1/11/09 at 02:23 PM

Looking good, keep posting the pics.


franky - 1/11/09 at 02:40 PM

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Originally posted by stevio73
Hi,
Looks good, very good. I am a newby to all this but have been wanting to build something simelar. Notice you have the Blackbird engine, which is exactly what I was looking at. Also notice that the engine is a little scue-wiff, ie prop has a little bend in it at the centre bearing. Is this normal for BEC's? I'm looking at road going version rather than track so unsure of whether this would be the norm for such an application. (track you expect some wear and tear/vibration,etc)
Anyway, I'm in Selby and would love the chance to come and see your build, ask questions, etc. I know it sounds odd, but really need to see something up close to gain some idea's. If it helps I do have a small lathe and could machine some bit's and bob's if you ever get stuck?

Thanks

Steve


Propshafts with UJ work best when they're not in a straight line.


Breaker - 1/11/09 at 09:43 PM

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Originally posted by franky
quote:
Originally posted by stevio73
Hi,
Looks good, very good. I am a newby to all this but have been wanting to build something simelar. Notice you have the Blackbird engine, which is exactly what I was looking at. Also notice that the engine is a little scue-wiff, ie prop has a little bend in it at the centre bearing. Is this normal for BEC's? I'm looking at road going version rather than track so unsure of whether this would be the norm for such an application. (track you expect some wear and tear/vibration,etc)
Anyway, I'm in Selby and would love the chance to come and see your build, ask questions, etc. I know it sounds odd, but really need to see something up close to gain some idea's. If it helps I do have a small lathe and could machine some bit's and bob's if you ever get stuck?

Thanks

Steve


Propshafts with UJ work best when they're not in a straight line.


Yes, but shouldn't the gearbox adaptor be parallel to the diff ? After reading about aligning the diff and engine I think the engine should be placed as in the attachment (left picture). And the engine in this thread looks more like the right picture. Doesn't this setup will cause oscillating RPM at the diff ?



Breaker - 4/11/09 at 09:19 AM

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Propshafts with UJ work best when they're not in a straight line.


Yes, but shouldn't the gearbox adaptor be parallel to the diff ? After reading about aligning the diff and engine I think the engine should be placed as in the attachment (left picture). And the engine in this thread looks more like the right picture. Doesn't this setup will cause oscillating RPM at the diff ?




Any comments on this ?


adithorp - 4/11/09 at 08:38 PM

Yes, you are correct that the engine and diff centre lines should be parallel, as in the lefthand picture. Avoid setting up as in the righthand picture unless there's no other way to get it in.


motorcycle_mayhem - 5/11/09 at 01:17 PM

Usual propshaft comments...

Yep, mathematically, flanges output and driven should be parallel, with a few degrees offline to obviate wear, yadda, yadda.

In reality, my installations have put the engine (as here) where I want it to be. None of the prop runs have been text book, has it mattered?, no.

OK, so if I minded a bit of noise, vibration, harshness, blurred vision, deafness, aches and general all over pain..... I wouldn't use a hairdrier, it'd be a Zetec. If that was still too much, I'd leave it in the Mondeo......