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Blackbird Sprocket Splines
scootz - 11/6/09 at 09:30 AM

I'm converting a ZZR powered Radical to a Supercharged Blackbird engine.

I have a Quaife / Powertec drive unit from the original set up. It has LSD and reverse, so would obviously want to keep it.

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It uses a similar 'sprocket-to-prop' adaptor used on BEC's. Except it has cush rubbers and interlocks with the Powertec unit in-line (mid-engined car).

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The original sprocket had the ZZR spline pattern cut into it... this is different to the Blackbird spline pattern.

Thankfully the ZZR spline is smaller than the Blackbirds, so there should be room for a machine shop to cut a larger spline pattern into the original.

Still with me?

So, I guess the question is... can anyone recommend a machine shop who could cut the necessary spline pattern into my original sprocket adaptor.

Would save me a fortune as would otherwise have to commission Quaife / Powertec to make me a one off!


twybrow - 11/6/09 at 09:33 AM

The problem I found was they are hardened steel, so they are a nightmare to machine once heat treated.


scootz - 11/6/09 at 09:35 AM

I don't like your answer... give me another...


40inches - 11/6/09 at 09:45 AM

Would a water jet cut it?


MikeCapon - 11/6/09 at 09:46 AM

Idea? Machine or internal grind out centre of cush drive. Turn down Blackbird sprocket to push fit. Weld and light skim (turned) to eliminate out of round provoked by welding.....


twybrow - 11/6/09 at 09:48 AM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
I don't like your answer... give me another...


Ok, try this one - stop being so tight, and buy the right one for the job! you must be loaded after selling your ZX12 lump, so you can afford a new adaptor!


scootz - 11/6/09 at 11:38 AM

quote:
Originally posted by MikeCapon
Idea? Machine or internal grind out centre of cush drive. Turn down Blackbird sprocket to push fit. Weld and light skim (turned) to eliminate out of round provoked by welding.....


Sounds like that may be a good plan!


scootz - 11/6/09 at 11:49 AM

quote:
Originally posted by twybrow
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
I don't like your answer... give me another...


Ok, try this one - stop being so tight, and buy the right one for the job! you must be loaded after selling your ZX12 lump, so you can afford a new adaptor!


Nope... that one doesn't work either...

Lost a few hundred quid on the ZX12R (oh, when will I ever learn!) and the Bird engine cost significanly more, so absolutely minimal cash to splash!

The 'standard' Quaife / Powertec sprockets are around £200 by the time VAT, etc. are factored in. A bespoke one (don't do a Bird one off the shelf) would be significantly more!

PS - Just in case you thought I was being ungrateful for your initial advice, I wasn't... hoped my 'tongue-out' smiley would convey my strange sense of humour!

I genuinely hadn't thought about the hardend steel element.


twybrow - 11/6/09 at 07:35 PM

No offence taken - I knew it was tongue in cheek (or out!).

Sorry I cant be of more help.... Good luck!


scootz - 11/6/09 at 08:02 PM

Just bought a BB front sprocket for pennies on the Bay of E... will see what can be done with it!

Widz... if you're reading this, then start scratching that baldy wee brainy heid of yours!