nathanharris1987
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| posted on 13/10/08 at 11:29 AM |
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Help with tiger wiring loom, what are these plugs?
Hello all,
making progress on my wiring but hit a brick wall with deciphering what some plugs are I’ve got 4 plugs all in the same bundle (diagrams below)
3 X 5 hole trapezoidal plugs and 1 rectangular 8 hole plug
Each of them has a red and black flat plug accompanying which logic would tell me is supply and earth
 
tiger plugs?
So in words its
B = BLACK
N = BROWN
R = RED
U = BLUE
P = PURPLE
W = WHITE
G = GREEN
LG = LIGHT GREEN
Plug 1
LG P
G X2
G Y
Plug 2
U
N (thick Brown)
R
Plug 3
G W X2
LG
G R X2
Plug 4
R
R U
Basically… what the hell are they and what do I do with them? Help?
Thank you please.
Nath
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r1_pete
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| posted on 13/10/08 at 11:40 AM |
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Cant help specifically but this table shows the old standard wiring colours for the various purposes.
 
Rescued attachment wiring colours.JPG
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r1_pete
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| posted on 13/10/08 at 11:42 AM |
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and the missing bit from the top
 
Rescued attachment wiring2.JPG
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nathanharris1987
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| posted on 13/10/08 at 11:44 AM |
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cheers, that looks quite handy but i wouldnt be suprised that tiger has done somthing completely different and illusive just for sh1ts and giggles.
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 13/10/08 at 12:33 PM |
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1st one - heater???
2nd one - lights (side / dip)
3rd one - hazards (g/w & g/r give it away as these are standard colours for indicator circuits left and right)
4th one - fog light
Tiger use the standardised colours throughout their loom
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djtom
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| posted on 13/10/08 at 12:33 PM |
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They go to the dash switches. Can't remember which is which at present, but at a guess they are for main / sidelights, hazards, fog, heater fan,
etc.
The seperate red / black spade terminals are for the switch illumination - i.e. the switches light up when the head/side lights are on.
Diagram here, but I can't vouch for it's accuracy!
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steve_randle/Tiger%20wiring%20diagram.htm
HTH
Tom
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nathanharris1987
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| posted on 13/10/08 at 12:50 PM |
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i agree paul that makes sense but then i found a diagram stating what went into the sierra stalks with the dipped headlights already mentioned?
Cheers for that diagram dj tom its bloody useful! everything is making sense slowly.
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nathanharris1987
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| posted on 13/10/08 at 12:50 PM |
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i agree paul that makes sense but then i found a diagram stating what went into the sierra stalks with the dipped headlights already mentioned?
Cheers for that diagram dj tom its bloody useful! everything is making sense slowly.
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 13/10/08 at 01:44 PM |
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some useful docs on my website about wiring too....
Dave
"In Support of Help the Heroes" - Always
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 13/10/08 at 01:58 PM |
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Pretty sure the Sierra stalks wiring only contain the Main Beam switch.
If you look at the blue wire coming out of the lights plug, it should run to a 5-blade changover relay (onto pin 30) of the Tiger loom. The main beam
switch will then be connected via pin 85 or 86 to the Sierra column switches.
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 13/10/08 at 02:03 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by djtom
They go to the dash switches. Can't remember which is which at present, but at a guess they are for main / sidelights, hazards, fog, heater fan,
etc.
The seperate red / black spade terminals are for the switch illumination - i.e. the switches light up when the head/side lights are on.
Diagram here, but I can't vouch for it's accuracy!
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steve_randle/Tiger%20wiring%20diagram.htm
HTH
Tom
That diagram is for the Tiger '12 fuse' loom
The more common loom is the simpler '6 fuse' which only has 2 relays (headlights and flasher) and obviously only 6 fuses.....
Dave
"In Support of Help the Heroes" - Always
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nathanharris1987
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| posted on 13/10/08 at 03:38 PM |
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Rigghht, so all those wires i plugged into the sierra stalks... only the inidactors and main beam functions of the stalk will work?
the rest like hazard, lights and fog switch will have to be seperate on the dash?
ta
Nath
Ps havent got heater or window wipers so just cut that stalk off.
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 13/10/08 at 03:52 PM |
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From memory (building a Supercat earlier this year), the Tiger loom uses the column switches for the indicators and wipers only as normal. Did you get
any rocker switches from Tiger at all??
Have a look at the Tiger 12 fuse wiring diagram on the following site under "Documents". It shows the main beam switch on the column
switches as well as the rocker switch that Tiger supply that fits the plugs (Delta Switches as per Premier Wiring's website)
Link for wiing diagram
Link
for Premier Wiring showing Delta Switches
[Edited on 13/10/08 by Paul TigerB6]
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 13/10/08 at 03:58 PM |
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I can only speak for the 6 fuse loom - which I assume you have as it is an Avon.....
The loom uses the wiper and light/indicator stalks on the standard sierra column. The light/indicator stalk operates the indicators (obviously!) and
the hi/lo beam. It can also be made to work as a flash if you supply a seperate 1+12v to one of the spare pins (cant remember which but a quick search
on here will tell you)
Hazard and side/main light switches are designed to be seperate on the dash - they will have been supplied if you have a full kit....
HTH
Dave
"In Support of Help the Heroes" - Always
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 13/10/08 at 04:11 PM |
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Best to let us know which loom you have anyway - either the 6-fuse or 12-fuse version. I thought they just did the 12-fuse version myself now
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nathanharris1987
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| posted on 13/10/08 at 04:26 PM |
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ive got the 6 fuse loom
would it be too much of a job to route the side lights switch into the old light stalk on the right?
also i take it i need an extra "flasher" module if i want this function?
ta
nath
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 13/10/08 at 04:32 PM |
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flasher - is built into main / dip switch - you just need to supply an extra +12v
Dave
"In Support of Help the Heroes" - Always
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 13/10/08 at 04:35 PM |
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Should be pretty easy to wire in the lights to the column switch if thats your preference like that. The brown wire is simple a common supply for the
lights so just need to work out where to connect it on the standard Sierra lighting switch plug, along with the feeds for side lights (red) and dip /
main feed (blue/white).
The main beam flash is already part of the indicator switch anyway isnt it, along with the mean beam switch on the left hand column switch??
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nathanharris1987
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| posted on 13/10/08 at 04:45 PM |
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alright nice one,
ive got the following colour coding on my sierra stalk...
 
Sierra stalks in colour
ive got a brown, red and blue wire to go to what looks like 2 pins (30) and (58) on the bottom left hand diagram?
the stalk has two phases which i presume is one click up for side lites and another click for dipped?
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 14/10/08 at 07:58 AM |
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OK....
I think the problem is you are getting a lot of advice based on general knowledge of the Sierra and looms in general - however the Tiger loom is a
different kettle of water dwelling creatures......
I cant say anything about the lights/wipers as I dont have those stalks fitted.... I think the 6 fuse loom is designed to use the wiper stalk.
However it is not designed to use the lights stalk. But I am sure you could work out what to connect to where in order to get it working just by using
a continuity meter. you will probably have to add some wire to extend to the stalk though as the loom is designed to place the light switch in the
center of the dash.
As for the Hazard switch on top of the column... dont bother! I tried getting this working with the Tiger loom and it would require basically remaking
half the loom!
However, I can tell you taht the Tiger 6 fuse loom will NOT connect to the dip/main/indicator like that!
15.... connect seperate +12v if you want a flash
This diagram should explain the rest.... this IS the way the 6 fuse loom connects and is how mine is connected and working perfectly
 
Tiger indicator wiring
HTH
Dave
"In Support of Help the Heroes" - Always
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nathanharris1987
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| posted on 14/10/08 at 11:18 AM |
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Cheers dave,
i'll have the hazard seperate but see if i cant get the lights working on the RHS stalk.
Nath
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Schrodinger
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| posted on 15/10/08 at 11:04 AM |
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I had a six fuse loom in my cat that I built in 2002 and wired the lights through the column switches, it was quite straight forward but took a while
with a multimeter and the Sierra wiring diagram to work out which connections to use, The loom does not as standard offer the main beam flash although
again that is straight forward IIRC there is a pin 15 on both the left and right switches that needs to be linked.
Something you will need to be aware of though is that the Ford used about 5 different pin configurations in the various Sierras.
Those connectors are, as has been said, for the dash switches. I still have the build manual ( for the occassional laugh) for the Cat which has a list
of the connections if that is any help.
If you really need a copy of the wiring diagram for the Tiger contact Giles Cooper on the Tiger Owners Club forum as he did the diagram for Tiger.
Keith
Aviemore
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