Avoneer
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| posted on 4/4/05 at 09:52 PM |
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Yeah, and we all know what fun Graham had fitting his rear bones!
And the rear shockers are meant to be on a stupid angle - tiger design!
Pat...
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carlgeldard
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| posted on 5/4/05 at 06:59 AM |
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Just to add more fuel to the fire before I get banned from the site. In the photo (Andrew Bause) it show's the rose joints on the bottom wishbone
at the front of the brakets mine are at the rear. And I think the uprights are offset. And don't ask which way around I have the uprights I just
can't remember. What I do remember is that chester sports cars did there rear setup like me see photo.
Carl
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Northy
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| posted on 5/4/05 at 07:07 AM |
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You were at that AutoSport show too then Carl 
Graham
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carlgeldard
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| posted on 5/4/05 at 07:27 AM |
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Yes and No I got that photo off a Cd from Pat and he got the cd from you so that must be your photo just like this one
 
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carlgeldard
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| posted on 5/4/05 at 07:28 AM |
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and this one
 
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carlgeldard
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| posted on 5/4/05 at 07:30 AM |
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And this one. Have you got anymore special interests. I know why there are no ladys at the Yorkshire meeting if your around.
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 5/4/05 at 07:56 AM |
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Sorry to bring us crashing back down on topic ...!
but I now have some piccies of my PU bushes as they are at the moment. According to the Tiger book the tubes on the wishbones should be 32mm - it
turns out mine are all 29mm Please could someone measure theirs and let me know the results (would be good to get a few answers for comparison)
anyway have a look at these pics and you will see what i my dilema clearly
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carlgeldard
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| posted on 5/4/05 at 08:30 AM |
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Mine are all 32mm but I made my own bones they also had an I/D of 26.5mm
Carl
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Mix
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| posted on 5/4/05 at 08:30 AM |
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Two options spring to mind,
1. Turn down the bushes and crush tubes to fit the bush tubes. Requires access to a lathe but will have the benefit of allowing small amount of
'room for adjustment' by shimming the wishbones within the mounts.
2. Turn some spacers from material identical to the bush tubes. Again requiring access to a lathe but less machining time required.
Mick
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carlgeldard
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| posted on 5/4/05 at 09:05 AM |
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I would think it's Tiger's problem if you got the bushes and bones from them.
If everbody tell you how long there tubes are and it is documented in the book as been 32mm. What can they do but offer you an exchange. It cannot be
a new design because they have not changed to brackets on the chassis or bushes.
Carl
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 5/4/05 at 09:13 AM |
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I have emailed Tiger about this, now waiting for a reply....
Dave
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 5/4/05 at 10:02 AM |
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Just been talking to Richard at Tiger in London;
apparently the bushes do need to be cut down a bit to fit
He also confirmed that the weld marked on the rear lower wishbone goes to the rear.
He suggested using a grinder or belt sander to shorten the bushes - any thoughts on this - I have been considering buying one of these:
which would seem ideal for the process - any thoughts ?
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Dave
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carlgeldard
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| posted on 5/4/05 at 10:13 AM |
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If you grind down the bushes won't you then have to pack out the brackets on the chassis to take out the slack. This can not be right. At least
you will be able to adjust the castor angle using washers.
Carl
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 5/4/05 at 10:18 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by carlgeldard
If you grind down the bushes won't you then have to pack out the brackets on the chassis to take out the slack. This can not be right. At least
you will be able to adjust the castor angle using washers.
Carl
my thoughts exactly
Dave
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Mix
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| posted on 5/4/05 at 12:01 PM |
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Reducing the PU bushes won't be too much of a problem but I wouldn't attempt to reduce the lengths of the crush tubes with either a
grinder or linisher. IMO these need to be reduced on a lathe to maintain a square face.
Mick
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shades
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| posted on 5/4/05 at 05:17 PM |
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How do they look when the bolts are torqued up? Mine are the same, but I was hoping for the excess yellow to be taken up when tightened....
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Northy
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| posted on 5/4/05 at 05:19 PM |
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Cut the poly bushes down with a sharp knife, thats easy.
Why don't you get some washers with an ID of the OD of the crush tubes and use those? Saves shortening the crush tubes.
I shortened both BTW.
Cheers
Graham
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 5/4/05 at 09:53 PM |
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any piccy's of how yours turned out northy ?
also how did you cut down the tube ?
cheers
Dave
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Northy
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| posted on 5/4/05 at 09:58 PM |
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Might have some pics somewhere. Cut my crush tubes with a file!
Graham
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 7/4/05 at 04:07 PM |
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not sure how i am going to proceed yet with my poly bushes, but here is the next question just to get things going again....
how the f*** do you get the steel bushes into the lower rear wishbones? they are way to big!- I have tried heating the w/b and left the bush in the
freezer overnightand yet I still cant even get close to fitting. insides of tubes are nice and clear - (quick blast with a flap wheel) but the tubes
are just cutting into the lip at the end of the bushes. I have yet to try putting a schamfer on the tubes but with this much interference it seems a
bit hopeless 
Dave
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Northy
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| posted on 7/4/05 at 05:08 PM |
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I didn't, I used poly bushes there.
Graham
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shades
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| posted on 7/4/05 at 06:09 PM |
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I used a long bolt from a hub puller, some washers and a big socket to pull the bush into the wish bones. Oh and a long brittool wrench... all 4
fitted in about half an hour. Still not sure what to do with the polly ones after reading the previous posts?
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 7/4/05 at 08:34 PM |
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OK,
fully cleaned up the tube and chamferd the leading edge. used a 10mm 8.8 ton bolt as the main puller. I got the bush in all the way but the last 8mm
by which time it was so stiff that I sheared the bolt!
bugger knows what i can try now.....
Dave
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Northy
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| posted on 7/4/05 at 08:43 PM |
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Use a stronger bolt?
Graham
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carlgeldard
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| posted on 8/4/05 at 07:12 AM |
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The bushes in question are tapered not that you can see with the naked eye. Have you got a vernier gauge. Also try going to a local garage Eg:- Main
dealers they will have a hydraulic press.
Carl
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