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mad4x4

posted on 13/7/06 at 06:23 PM Reply With Quote
Why B****y ME !!

WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN TO ME !

First of all siezed engine

now just after failing SVA I notice this !! And ofcourse I booked my retest yesterday!!.


1 x Broken type 9 bellhosing

1x Broken Bolt casting on Engine - (different palce from G/Box)

AHHHHHHHHHH











This was noticed as there seamed to be a lot of movement on the engine while I was setting up the Carbs.
Had a closer look and notice the crack on the gearbxox ( top right hand looking to front of vehicle).

After that I also notice that the right hand engine to gearbox tab was also broken. (looking from g/box to engine).

Why is this happening?

Could this be distructive vibration from an unbalanced Prop?








[Edited on 13/707/06 by mad4x4]





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DIY Si

posted on 13/7/06 at 06:26 PM Reply With Quote
Got any pics? If you need a bellhousing I have a cast one sat outside doing nothing except soaking up the sun.
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12a RX-7

posted on 13/7/06 at 06:30 PM Reply With Quote
is that rust on the crack in the photo showing the engine and box ? that would suggest that it's been damaged for a while. The crack on the engine looks like it is a result of the other failure, no signs of fatigue or of previous damage.

hard to see from photos though!

[Edited on 13/7/06 by 12a RX-7]






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mad4x4

posted on 13/7/06 at 06:33 PM Reply With Quote
No the rust you are seeing is the edge of the fly wheel. Both show very little signs of old crack!.

The engine one loos like it went first as it has managed to "polish" part of the face.

This happened about 15miles from home on the way to SVA. I know as I commented to my backup. That it was making a funny noise at speed, from the drivers side.

[Edited on 13/707/06 by mad4x4]





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tks

posted on 13/7/06 at 06:39 PM Reply With Quote
mhhh

You could try to weld it with an arc welder and special cast pins/electrodes....

a couple of 100kilograms should do it.

Else i would just drill tap and make anohter mounting out of sheet/strip

Tks





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ruskino80

posted on 13/7/06 at 06:40 PM Reply With Quote
looks like possibly the bell housing was warped putting excessive strain on the 2 points????
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ned

posted on 13/7/06 at 07:06 PM Reply With Quote
I would be suprised if the bellhousing had warped, something I've never heard of or come across before.
How many miles had the engine done? did you remove it from teh donor vehicle?

I've known vauxhall engines that have had broken castings round the bellhousing, never had any problems as long as all the other bolts are intact.

It is also possible if the engine was ever dropped or knocked/damaged during removal from car, whilst in storage etc etc (hence asking if you removed it from donor yourself or sourced it from a scrappy that probably wasn't that bothered!)

I would guess the bellhousing as well is just bad lucky unless the damage was done previously at teh same time, but unlikely seeing as the parts are from sperate donor vehicles.

I'd just replace the bellhousing or patch it up for sva, if something else happens then I'd worry but its not going to cause a structural failure and there's very minimal risk of damaging anything else - especially if you heard a noise befoer you realised anything was wrong.

all imho

Ned.





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rusty nuts

posted on 13/7/06 at 07:07 PM Reply With Quote
Have had an out of balance prop break the bell housing on an old Avenger and also a bad clutch judder break the bell housing on a Citroen XM . Could have been caused by misalignment of engine/gearbox , bent first motion shaft on gearbox and maybe previous damage if the engine /gearbox came from accident damaged cars . I think Sierra's used to damage the gearbox if they were shunted from the rear ? although the ally housing at the rear of the box would be more liable to damage
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andyharding

posted on 13/7/06 at 07:17 PM Reply With Quote
Why is your engine seized? If it's due to overheating maybe the expansion caused this cracks?





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Avoneer

posted on 13/7/06 at 09:12 PM Reply With Quote
Not overtightened are they?

You didn't do one up fully tight and then another did you? Should all be done progresively like head bolts.

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Lightning

posted on 13/7/06 at 09:39 PM Reply With Quote
My first car did exactly that as the prop was out of balance. New prop balanced cured the problem.





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iank

posted on 13/7/06 at 11:17 PM Reply With Quote
Get the prop balanced! This thread shows what a prop breaking can do to the car, rather worse than breaking a few castings.

This guy was lucky! (page three for decent pictures of the devastation).

http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?fid=13&tid=24757

Edit: Just added this to the FAQ Wiki - http://www.carbuilders.info

[Edited on 13/7/06 by iank]

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jamesbond007ltk

posted on 14/7/06 at 01:13 AM Reply With Quote
Just been reading the post linked to above.

Interesting to read that someone insists on grease nipples on their UJs. Very worth while. Had a 2.4D Hilux once. Front UJ dried itself out, due to hot summer, dusty fields, me driving too fast etc. One day BANG! prop still attached to rear axle, whipped round and put a huge dent in the load bed, fuel tank etc. Wouldn't want that a few inches from my leg! Having said that, mine isn't balanced and i shortened it myself! SHIT! Planning on getting a new one made by south wales props once done SVA, then i can boot it with confidence

Rich

[Edited on 14/7/06 by jamesbond007ltk]

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mad4x4

posted on 14/7/06 at 11:05 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lightning
My first car did exactly that as the prop was out of balance. New prop balanced cured the problem.


Right then New Prop. !!!





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