JeffHs
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| posted on 26/4/08 at 11:21 AM |
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Help SVA Fail - Sierra Column
First drive on Wednesday and it rained heavily on way to SVA. Not my finest hour , failed test at Derby. Some minors, most of which I could have
fixed there but 4 majors - no self-centring (can't argue it's nasty to drive, and I will bite the bullet, hack off some bodywork and
reposition the top bone brackets) rear seat belt mounts too low (I just missed that), insufficient strength in pedal box (fair cop with hindsight)
but the one I'm most concerned about is the steering column.
The tester was fair and helpful and didn't make me feel too much of a t**t, but I think I should challenge his view on the column.
He was happy with the bottom end with a dogleg and 2 U/Js but didn't like the hard mount for the top - argued that the original Sierra mountings
were designed to break away in impact. He suggested a collapsible boss between the wheel (Mountney) and column.I thought that was the purpose of the
concertina section in the top of the outer column, so I wouldn't need anything else.
Any thoughts or suggestions?
Jeff
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Doug68
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| posted on 26/4/08 at 11:32 AM |
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I've not seen a Sierra column in the flesh but what the guy said sounds like complete cobblers to me.
How will the colapsable section be forced to work if the top location brackets fail?
Is your face supposed to be the thing that collapses the column 
Doug. 1TG
Sports Car Builders WA
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caber
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| posted on 26/4/08 at 11:32 AM |
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That's a new one! If I remember correctly the Sierra column mounts to the bulkhead where it is pretty structural. I would see if you can get a
photo of the original mounting on a Sierra, if it looks pretty solid send it to SVA tester for his comments prior to re-test.
Good Luck
Caber
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worX
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| posted on 26/4/08 at 12:09 PM |
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Not that I agree with the tester at all, but might he be referring to the fairly weak cast Ali bracket that it's fixed with?
Steve
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adithorp
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| posted on 26/4/08 at 01:00 PM |
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Think his point might be that if you hit the top of the column it has to collapse downward. Thats why he'd be happy with a collapsable wheel
mount. You'd also get away with a deformable wheel as thats what tin tops have but I think it has to have a test certificte if it not from the
doner.
In reality its irrelevant if you wear your belts but I think it is in the SVA book.
adrian
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Paul (Notts)
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| posted on 26/4/08 at 03:16 PM |
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There has to be a weak section between the wheel and the column
eg a collapsible boss
Its normal practice for sva to either use the original Sierra wheel ( has a week point built in ) or fit a collapsible boss and wheel.
Paul
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dave1888
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| posted on 26/4/08 at 06:19 PM |
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Do you want a collapsable boss i have one in the garage you can have. I will post a pic in a bit.
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dave1888
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| posted on 26/4/08 at 06:26 PM |
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This come with my Montney sierra boss but i got a ali spacer made so this is spare.
 
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graememk
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| posted on 26/4/08 at 06:35 PM |
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i have a mountey wheel and boss and sva pad i lend out for sva if that helps.
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vinnievector
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| posted on 27/4/08 at 11:28 AM |
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your colum
If it helps there are differences on some of the columns .as i have an early type with plastic mounting lugs which i change for a later type which is
adjustable , but with no plastic lugs,as i had no switch gear on the older one ,however it seems now i have the same problem as your self as i also
have a montly boss to ,so seems i will have to get hold of a sierra wheel.
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Marcus
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| posted on 27/4/08 at 04:41 PM |
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This was one of the things mine didn't fail on (2 sheets of A4 full of minor bits and bobs!), although the tester (Derby) had a good look and
was pleased to see I'd fitted a collapsible boss (Astrali) on the Mountney wheel. This was in addition to the collapsible column (Manta) and
centre UJ on the extension. I picked my boss up from Harrogate show for a fiver, money well spent methinks 
Marcus
Because kits are for girls!!
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