speedyxjs
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 08:04 PM |
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Front tubes
I have struck a problem. Due to the size of my engine, tubes T and S (in original book) dont quite fit. They will fit if i make them 3/4 of the length
but that may be defeating the point of them. Any suggestions?
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 08:09 PM |
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don't you own a camera?
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 08:17 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
don't you own a camera?
Its dark. Let me see what i can do. Wont be a mo 
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 08:27 PM |
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This should make more sense. The tubes (green) will only fit if i move them to where the blue ones are. Does this matter?
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 08:27 PM |
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This might help
 
Chassis mods
[Edited on 20-12-07 by speedyxjs]
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bonzoronnie
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 posted on 20/12/07 at 08:31 PM |
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Tubes
Looking at the book the tube length looks to be quite critical.
How much were you looking to be shorten them by ?
I have just noticed by about 25%. A tad too much I think.
They look like they provide critical triagulation for the upper wishbone assemblys, tr1 & tr2, fu1 &fu2.
I am sure you will get some more advice on this.
Ronnie
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 08:32 PM |
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can't you do a curved piece instead, you've not left every much, a bit drastic
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blakep82
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 08:36 PM |
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can you mark out where the engine will sit? i think i can see some more triangulation possiblities, but don't want to draw them out if
there's a good reason why it won't work i'm lazy like that
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 08:38 PM |
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this is what MK did, it has left a lot more room
[Edited on 20/12/07 by Mr Whippy]
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 08:41 PM |
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Ok.
Green line = original design
Blue line = obviously wont work
Pink line = Another idea (waiting for abuse
Black line = Where engine comes to (approx)
Edit - Liking you idea Mr W 
[Edited on 20-12-07 by speedyxjs]
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Blakey_boy
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 08:45 PM |
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To what plans are you using ?
The book plans or the +4?
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 08:47 PM |
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pink is nuts
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 08:52 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
pink is nuts
Yeah i know i can see that now
Blakey_boy - its based on the haynes roadster but with a longer engine bay and using jag wishbones and uprights (keeping locost in mind )
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indykid
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 08:52 PM |
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bent tubes are bad. bent square section where one wall is buckled in seems even worse.
if i were to need the extra space, i'd go for something like below. it'd be harder to weld, but i'd imagine you could get into it all
if you were a bit creative with mig shrouds
tom
 
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 08:54 PM |
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^^^^^^ Thats a good idea^^^^^^
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blakep82
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 08:55 PM |
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i would go with something like this (red), and maybe continue them forward past the blue ones like the pink ones
 
tubes
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indykid
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 08:55 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by speedyxjs
^^^^^^ Thats a good idea^^^^^^
thanks
tom
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Blakey_boy
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 08:58 PM |
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Just thinking that the +4 is a tad wider where it matters most with the standard chassis width at the point shown being 506mm for standard chassis and
608mm for the +4 chassis
Would the extra 102mm help in resolving the initail problem in the first instance with clearance
Can someone tell me if the Haynes chassis is 506 or 608 at the front end on the top
[Edited on 20/12/07 by Blakey_boy]
[Edited on 20/12/07 by Blakey_boy]
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 09:02 PM |
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oh off coarse it's the jag engine...what were you thinking, fitting that ??
[Edited on 20/12/07 by Mr Whippy]
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 09:03 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Blakey_boy
Can someone tell me if the Haynes chassis is 506 or 608 at the front end on the top
I think its 608 but my engine bay is i think 6 inches longer and 6 inches wider (sorry have to work in inches cos thats all my grandad understands) il
leave you to do the math
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 09:10 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
oh off coarse it's the jag engine...what were you thinking, fitting that ??
[Edited on 20/12/07 by Mr Whippy]
I was thinking post SVA fitting a supercharged 4.0 engine and getting over 500 horses out of it
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indykid
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 09:11 PM |
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so are you building a +4 locost or a +4 haynes roadster?
a haynes roadster is 2" wider than a locost, so a +4 roadster's a +6 locost
did you follow that? you can have a merit if you did.
tom
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Blakey_boy
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 09:13 PM |
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thats 150mm longer and 150mm wider!!!
That would make the chassis at the front (if the haynes chassis is 608mm wide at the front) 760mm (app) which is nigh on 30 inches wide!!!
And that is between J1 & J2 810mm or 32 inches if you include J1&2 overall
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 09:23 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by indykid
so are you building a +4 locost or a +4 haynes roadster?
a haynes roadster is 2" wider than a locost, so a +4 roadster's a +6 locost
did you follow that? you can have a merit if you did.
tom
I can just about follow that
Its a haynes roadster puls 6 inches at the front
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Blakey_boy
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 09:26 PM |
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760mm (app) overal width or for those following this thread 30 inches (app)
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