chunkielad
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| posted on 3/2/05 at 09:56 PM |
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Middy BEC changes to McSorley 442 Chassis
Doodled some changes to theMcSorley for a middy BEC. Anyone any ideas on problems?
So far I have thought of, Diff has had to be angled up at the front - propshaft UJs will have to work to get the drive through. Is this too much of an
angle for the UJs?
No transmission tunnel means tha the driver and passenger can be closer and gives a bit more arm room. Pedals are in a narrower area of chassis but
they would have more space due to tranny tunnel missing. I think that the movement of the seats centreward would accomodate the movement of the
pedals.
Driver is 300mm forward of book chassis. I would also look at something other than standard style body work I think - something totally new and
unique.
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chunkielad
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| posted on 3/2/05 at 09:58 PM |
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Pic would have helped 
 
Rescued attachment Middy BEC.jpg
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timsta
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| posted on 3/2/05 at 10:04 PM |
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Diff? Why not just use a transaxle? 
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 3/2/05 at 10:05 PM |
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seen a bike engine in a GTR bit like you propose, looked ok, not sure if the engine was'nt straight onto the diff (irs) snoopy will confirm for
you, can't remember, been to bed a few times since i saw it.
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stevebubs
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| posted on 3/2/05 at 10:10 PM |
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Fury Menace uses sierra diff with widgy prop (6" or so) to the engine.
BEC only, though and Passenger sits a little forward of the driver.
Driver has engine right next to his left ear!!
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chunkielad
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| posted on 3/2/05 at 10:18 PM |
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Well no one seems to be too bothered at the moment - I didn't put a transaxle in due to cost (Sierra diffs very cheap) and I don't know
what one is
I definately want the driver and passenger level. My thoughts were to have the exhaust and possibly battery in the area behind the driver so as to
help balanve the weight side to side (grey boxes under engine are Exhaust) it also keeps the exhaust internal so I don't have to deal with SVA
issues and I can't burn my leg on it!!!
[Edited on 3/2/05 by chunkielad]
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timsta
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| posted on 3/2/05 at 10:34 PM |
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Sorry, I meant the gearbox from a FWD car, bolts up like a regular gearbox with driveshafts coming out either side. Just take engine+gearbox out of
doner and 'pop' into the rear of you middy.
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chunkielad
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| posted on 3/2/05 at 10:47 PM |
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That'd be because it's a BEC - Bike Engined Car The gearbox is IN the engine.
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timsta
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| posted on 3/2/05 at 11:20 PM |
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Ah, doh! didn't see the all important 'BEC' in the post.
I'll just go get my glasses!
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stevebubs
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| posted on 4/2/05 at 12:56 AM |
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Better still, why not flatter Jeremy Philips (sp?) and copy his Sylva R1OT setup. Added benefit that the engine is fitted the same way as the bike
(i.e. East-West)
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krlthms
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| posted on 4/2/05 at 02:34 AM |
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Lad,
Nice concept, but I have a couple of minor points:
1. Eyeballing it from your sketsch, and assuming you are using 1" square tubing, I measure the engine to be roughly 7" x 10". I
think this is a bit small, even for a bike engine.
2. What do you propose to do with all the space in front of the driver/passenger. Maybe move the "cabin" a wee bit forward.
3. Having driven a Mini for many years I can tell you that one gets used very quickly to having the pedals offset to the center of the car, not
directly in front of the driver.
Cheers
KT
[Edited on 4/2/05 by krlthms]
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Rorty
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| posted on 4/2/05 at 04:09 AM |
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Chunky, sorry to burst your bubble, but your design has manifested itself many many times before already.
Drop in to the Middy section and browse the posts there for further info and inspiration.
Good start though.
Cheers, Rorty.
"Faster than a speeding Pullet".
PLEASE DON'T U2U ME IF YOU WANT A QUICK RESPONSE. TRY EMAILING ME INSTEAD!
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chunkielad
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| posted on 4/2/05 at 10:03 AM |
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I didn't want to 'copy' anyone as the thought of coming up with this myself and doing it appeals. I know that the middy section has
versions of cars which are similar but do anyof them use the McSorley?
The engine definately isn't to scale. I used the McSorley plans so the chassis is. I just wanted to eyeball and get peoples thoughts on it.
If the engine is the 'right way round' in the Syla R1ot, wouldn't it then use a chain? This is something I want to avoid really as
there are maintenance issues i'd rather avoid.
The driver and passenger would be further forward and hence the pedals, footwell etc would be further forward too. I did drive aCorsa once (only once)
which felt like the pedals were a little accross from centre and I hated it
Thanks everyone for their info. It does seem that it won't be a problem to sort then. Myt bioggest worry was the diff being on such an angle.
Would it be lubed OK still?
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