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Dale

posted on 15/7/04 at 05:27 PM Reply With Quote
18 gauge ?

Its been disscussed alot but has anyone used 18 awg for the floor sheeting and do you have a problem with oil canning/ popping when you get in and out of the car.
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Dale

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derf

posted on 15/7/04 at 07:14 PM Reply With Quote
Just from my limited experience, I get that with a 16 guage floor, fully welded, not bad, but it does make a slight pop sound once in a while when I get in/out, I'm sure it would be worse with an 18 gauge floor. The weigt difference shouldnt be too much eith, maybee a few pounds, 10-15?
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pbura

posted on 15/7/04 at 07:33 PM Reply With Quote
If you have lengthwise beads rolled into 18 awg, you should have no drumming.

Was looking for a thread to refer you to, but am having no luck with the 'search' button today. Hopefully, someone who has done this will pipe up

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Ben_Copeland

posted on 15/7/04 at 07:38 PM Reply With Quote
Cant remember what guage i used, but i braced it with 10mm square tube

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Mark Allanson

posted on 15/7/04 at 07:54 PM Reply With Quote
I used 18g, braced underneath and angled to make sure there were no symetrical areas of steel left to harmonise with certain engine revs - I HATE that metallic rasp of vibrating sheet steel.

I used 13mm ERW 16g box to brace Rescued attachment Underneath.jpg
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James

posted on 15/7/04 at 08:32 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pbura
If you have lengthwise beads rolled into 18 awg, you should have no drumming.

Was looking for a thread to refer you to, but am having no luck with the 'search' button today. Hopefully, someone who has done this will pipe up

Pete


I've done it that way! :-D

18 gauge or possible thinner- can't remember.
I ran two swages down each one and then fully welded it.
No pics to show you though.

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kiwirex

posted on 15/7/04 at 10:52 PM Reply With Quote
Round bits on Mark's bottom (ooh err)

Mark, in your photo of the floor of your car showing your bracing, what are the round bits near the side for??
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locost_bryan

posted on 16/7/04 at 12:33 AM Reply With Quote
just don't use a 12 guage - you'll blow your nuts off!





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Dale

posted on 16/7/04 at 12:28 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks for the info, being I am 245lbs 16 gauge may be more suitable with the bracing as well., I plan on welding in the tunel sides as well. What are the opinions on how 18-16 gauge will hold up to broken or propshaft or exploding transmission. I have seen the pics of the damage on one done in alloy, and that did not make me feel very safe as I should eventually be pushing somewhere between 225-300hp.
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andkilde

posted on 16/7/04 at 01:21 PM Reply With Quote
Hmmn, the Locost racers have to add an additional diagonal to protect themselves from a potentially flailing prop -- seems a good idea to me (as well as a mirrored tube to protect the passenger in a road car). A prop wagging about would make a marvelous "can" opener and steel sheet, regardless of guage, is not terribly resistant to tearing.

On the other hand, if your prop tears one cheek off you'll be able to hang out with all of the gimps at the motorcycle races...

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Ben_Copeland

posted on 16/7/04 at 06:14 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kiwirex
Mark, in your photo of the floor of your car showing your bracing, what are the round bits near the side for??


Look like drain holes to me





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Mark Allanson

posted on 16/7/04 at 07:27 PM Reply With Quote
Yes, they are drain holes, M20 heavy washers continuously welded into the floor in the corner of every sealed area. having no roof I expect the car to leak a bit !





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James

posted on 17/7/04 at 09:08 AM Reply With Quote
Hmmm, you've made me worried I need to go drill some holes in my floor now!

One reassuring thing though Mark- your floor is a ripply as mine! It took me ages to get that special aerodynamic effect though!

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Dale

posted on 17/7/04 at 01:18 PM Reply With Quote
For welding in the floor, have most gone for stitch welding it in first and then full weld the entire thing in or to drill the floor similar to riviting it in but then plug weld it in by welding through the holes?
Thanks again.
Dale

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JoelP

posted on 17/7/04 at 01:46 PM Reply With Quote
i stitched mine, then did it full. I like the idea of using thin guage with creases in it. mine is 16g, the sides 22g. with fully welded transmission tunnel sides.






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Mix

posted on 17/7/04 at 04:05 PM Reply With Quote
M20 heavy washers continuously welded into the floor

Is global warming really having that much effect down your way ??

I'll go for 3mm holes in the floor, rain up here is quite thin, if persistant.

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