ALEXARAS
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| posted on 18/3/10 at 11:30 PM |
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DAX vs DONKERVOORT vs CAT/WEST
Really do you know which chassis is considered to be best under which conditions, what are the advantages/disadvantages of them?
CAT/WEST = CATERHAM / WESTFIELD
A bit general question but still an interesting topic i think.
All experiences would be nice to be shared.
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tegwin
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| posted on 18/3/10 at 11:34 PM |
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Piece of string.... how long.... discuss....
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balidey
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| posted on 18/3/10 at 11:37 PM |
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Reminds me of a few years back I (accidentally) wandered into the hifi section of Currys. Was just looking at the stereos when a spotty little oink
(staff) appeared behind me and said, and I quote.
'That ones the best, then that one, then that one'
So there you go, it must be possible to put those 4 chassis manufacturers in order of which ones best. Best at what is the next question. The best at
grating cheese?
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stevebubs
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| posted on 18/3/10 at 11:40 PM |
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Go post this question on the blatchat and wscc forums 
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 19/3/10 at 08:47 AM |
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Don't be unkind! It's a valid question, worthy of a looooong debate...
Might be better moved to the "Anything else car related" section though...
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iank
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| posted on 19/3/10 at 08:57 AM |
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Why are Caterham and Westfield treated as the same, they are as different from each other as the Dax IMO, indeed Caterham do a lot of subtly different
chassis for their various models. Don't know about the Donky as I've never seen a photo of a bare chassis.
But as a starter Caterham are the best when the questions are:
Best for retaining value
Best at being a dimensionally accurate Lotus 7 copy
I believe they are probably also best for quality of construction and going around corners quickly but there are flame wars in there that aren't
worth the effort.
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fesycresy
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| posted on 19/3/10 at 10:22 AM |
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I know which one The Stig would pick
I'd have a Caterham tomorrow, if I wasn't a fat ba$tard and I had money.
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 19/3/10 at 10:32 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by balidey
Best at what is the next question. The best at grating cheese?
That'll be the Robin Hood Lightweight
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 19/3/10 at 12:02 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
quote:
Originally posted by balidey
Best at what is the next question. The best at grating cheese?
That'll be the Robin Hood Lightweight
Priceless answer........
The car that is the closest to the original is not the caterham......
Its the Birkin ....and thats the truth. Birkin copied the original and never diverted from the original ingredients as they had a local fomco still
making rear wheel drive cars long after the rest of the developed world went front wheel drive.
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iank
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| posted on 19/3/10 at 12:15 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mangogrooveworkshop
The car that is the closest to the original is not the caterham......
Its the Birkin ....and thats the truth. Birkin copied the original and never diverted from the original ingredients as they had a local fomco still
making rear wheel drive cars long after the rest of the developed world went front wheel drive.
Birkin wasn't on the list  , while true today the original Caterham chassis were Lotus 7 S3 chassis still made by Arch Motors in the original
jigs. They've updated a lot since then as you so rightly say.
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nick205
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| posted on 19/3/10 at 01:30 PM |
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I'd expect they each have their strengths and weaknesses. My guess would be the Caterham is the most developed of the bunch.
Personally, the Donky does it for me everytime just on looks.....
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D Beddows
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| posted on 19/3/10 at 03:09 PM |
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Caterhams look the best without a doubt..... at any kitcar show I've been to once you've looked at the Caterham stand 90% of everything
else you look at seems distinctly agricultural  having said that properly race prepped Westfields are good looking cars too so....... I'd say
a Procomp LA Gold Chassis with Westfield bodywork would be something I'd be happy to take into battle against a Caterham - all engines being
equal obviously
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mcerd1
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| posted on 19/3/10 at 03:52 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by D Beddows
Caterhams look the best without a doubt.....
I'd say its between the dax and the Donky - but maybe thats just me
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iank
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| posted on 19/3/10 at 03:58 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mcerd1
quote:
Originally posted by D Beddows
Caterhams look the best without a doubt.....
I'd say its between the dax and the Donky - but maybe thats just me
We're talking about chassis here, not bodywork/car - never seen a naked Donky  so no idea how well made the chassis is.
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mcerd1
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| posted on 19/3/10 at 06:23 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by iank
We're talking about chassis here, not bodywork/car - never seen a naked Donky so no idea how well made the chassis is.
ok, but I still vote for the dax
(just ignore the state of the garage)
I've not seen a naked Donky either (as anyone ?)
[Edited on 20/3/10 by mcerd1]
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gjs
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| posted on 20/3/10 at 08:06 PM |
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lotus(caterham) was the the original,everyone else just copies.
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zilspeed
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| posted on 21/3/10 at 10:09 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by gjs
lotus(caterham) was the the original,everyone else just copies.
Apart from the people who don't, of course...
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Peteff
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| posted on 21/3/10 at 10:55 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by gjs
lotus(caterham) was the the original,everyone else just copies.
No they don't, they got sued for copying and had to stop
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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t.j.
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| posted on 22/3/10 at 08:36 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mcerd1
quote:
Originally posted by iank
We're talking about chassis here, not bodywork/car - never seen a naked Donky so no idea how well made the chassis is.
ok, but I still vote for the dax
(just ignore the state of the garage)
I've not seen a naked Donky either (as anyone ?)
Here you go: donky:
Please feel free to correct my bad English, i'm still learning. Your Dutch is awfull! :-)
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britishtrident
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| posted on 23/3/10 at 02:01 PM |
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Birkin by a very large margin
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Alan B
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| posted on 23/3/10 at 04:17 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
Birkin by a very large margin
True.
From what I understand the Birkin is more Lotus than the Caterham is in terms of bloodline.
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Neville Jones
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| posted on 23/3/10 at 07:13 PM |
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None of them pass the Aus torsion and beam test, without some essential tubes added. That includes the latest Cateringvan and Westfields.
Cheers,
Nev.
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t.j.
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| posted on 23/3/10 at 07:58 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Neville Jones
None of them pass the Aus torsion and beam test, without some essential tubes added. That includes the latest Cateringvan and Westfields.
Cheers,
Nev.
That's funny, production-cars don't need a torsion-test....., so what are the values they need to score?
Please feel free to correct my bad English, i'm still learning. Your Dutch is awfull! :-)
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Eternal
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| posted on 24/3/10 at 07:48 AM |
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after loads of digging found this...
I just like how they have no rear strut brace but use the roll bar loop instead.
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TimC
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| posted on 24/3/10 at 09:27 AM |
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If I were you, I'd go for the Mercury Motorsport Paradigm. But it will cost you a lot of money to obtain such a rare specimen. 
You could write a big book on this topic.
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