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indykid

posted on 20/12/07 at 09:28 PM Reply With Quote
A PLUS 8 LOCOST???

didn't luego get a jag straight 6 in a viento?
that's only +442 afaik.

is it technically acceptable to just scale up the locost chassis? are you still using inch square tube?
tom






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speedyxjs

posted on 20/12/07 at 09:34 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by indykid
A PLUS 8 LOCOST???

didn't luego get a jag straight 6 in a viento?
that's only +442 afaik.

is it technically acceptable to just scale up the locost chassis? are you still using inch square tube?
tom


No im using 1.5 inch tube 2mm thick.
She's going to be fairly heavy but sjould be less than £1000





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bonzoronnie

posted on 21/12/07 at 08:26 AM Reply With Quote
Tubes

I have been giving your dilema a bit more thought.

Looking at the black line of where you engine will be coming to. I am not sure if yor engine uses the full width at the line, probably not.

One possible solution may be as follows:

Take some 1.6mm sheet metal. Cut 4 pieces of curved sheet ( Boomerang shape )

Try to keep as near as you can to the original tube length.

Weld two on each corner. One level with the top of the box section & one level with the botom.

Close the two plates with a pice of strip steel.

This will completely close each corner in.
This should give you some very rigid corners.

I hope this makes some sense to you.

Its the best solution that I can come up with.

Ronnie

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speedyxjs

posted on 21/12/07 at 08:57 AM Reply With Quote
Morning bonzoronnie.
My brain isnt working this early in the morning. Can you provide a visual aid?





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cymtriks

posted on 21/12/07 at 09:55 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by indykid
bent tubes are bad. bent square section where one wall is buckled in seems even worse.

if i were to need the extra space, i'd go for something like below. it'd be harder to weld, but i'd imagine you could get into it all if you were a bit creative with mig shrouds

tom


Indy kid is right. A Y brace either side is the right way to go. "Short" diagonals are never as good either from a torsional stiffness or strength point of view.

By the way, tubes R, S and T are among the most highly loaded and stiffness critical tubes in the chassis.

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wilkingj

posted on 21/12/07 at 10:05 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by indykid
A PLUS 8 LOCOST???

didn't luego get a jag straight 6 in a viento?
that's only +442 afaik.
tom

Viento is +6" wider, +12" longer, +4" taller than book chassis.

Viento will take Straight 6 engines, BMW's and jag's have been used. Even a V10 fits

Its a BIG bugger.

Velocity, is Book Chassis +2" (ish) higher to get Pinto's etc in.

Velocity Xt has slight wider rear end, but not as big as the Viento.

Below is Viento on the left, and Velocity on the right
Viento Versus Velocity (Size)
Viento Versus Velocity (Size)


[Edited on 21/12/2007 by wilkingj]





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speedyxjs

posted on 21/12/07 at 10:26 AM Reply With Quote
The wheels look bigger too





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wilkingj

posted on 21/12/07 at 10:37 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by speedyxjs
The wheels look bigger too


Yes they were 17" on the Viento, cant remember what they had on the velocity, probably 15".

I took a shed load of Photo's, so, remember their Viento fairly well







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bonzoronnie

posted on 21/12/07 at 12:13 PM Reply With Quote
Chassis change

I nicked this earlier image & done a quick paint




The red shaded area could be shaped to fit around your engine & fully boxed in.

If the lengths are kept as close as possible to the book spec lengths. A good amont of the original strength should be kept.

Ronnie

[Edited on 21/12/07 by bonzoronnie]

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indykid

posted on 21/12/07 at 06:34 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wilkingj
quote:
Originally posted by indykid
didn't luego get a jag straight 6 in a viento?
that's only +442 afaik.
tom

Viento is +6" wider, +12" longer, +4" taller than book chassis.

Its a BIG bugger.
[Edited on 21/12/2007 by wilkingj]


you're telling me!

i knew they were big but never imagined they'd be.......that big!

i now realise why in pictures, the proportions look so wrong. (imho of course)
tom






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Blakey_boy

posted on 22/12/07 at 09:25 AM Reply With Quote
Speedy besides the problem of the front tubes hows the rear end coming?.





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