Strontium Dog
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I know I'm new here and all that but CRIKEY! I've not seen anything offensive on here yet. Have any of you watched day time telly? Much
more suggestive imagery every day.
Now if some one put up some baps on display I'd agree whole heartedly, but an attractive young lady (or gent) does no harm now does it?
Advertising is based upon it! We are into cars and guess what is used to sell us our goodies!
On the other hand we could be like New Labour and ban and criminalise everything! Watch out for the thought police, NO don't think about it
they'll get you for sure!
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blakep82
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 03:22 PM | |
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quote:
Originally posted by Strontium Dog
I know I'm new here and all that but CRIKEY! I've not seen anything offensive on here yet. Have any of you watched day time telly? Much
more suggestive imagery every day.
Now if some one put up some baps on display I'd agree whole heartedly, but an attractive young lady (or gent) does no harm now does it?
Advertising is based upon it! We are into cars and guess what is used to sell us our goodies!
its a very good point. and as i read it, the image below comes on my telly at 3.20 in the afternoon, 3 half naked birds getting a spray tan, and then
a half naked bloke does the same thing. its an advert for some tv program, but they show the same amount as some avartars on here.
i won't post the actual photo, but here a link for those of you who want to see what i'm talking about
http://locostbuilders.co.uk/upload/spray.JPG
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iank
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 03:57 PM | |
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quote:
Originally posted by cd.thomson
do the same organisations ban women and smiling?
would these oppressive corporations also not drag you to a similar tribunal for pootling around on locostbuilders in the first place?
By middle shelf I was thinking more of T3 which often has an attractive lady on the front, but I very much doubt youd get dragged to the front office
for a gadget magazine.
[Edited on 15/3/10 by cd.thomson]
No women and smiling are completely ok, the corporations are hardly oppressive and many have no problems with web browsing in your own time. They are
however risk averse and do object to being hauled in front of tribunals by anyone claiming there was an oppressive 'male centric' attitude
that meant they weren't promoted. It costs them >£10k even if they win (more if it's a senior manager), more if the no-win-no-fee
sharks are involved. The fact that a lot of senior HR managers are women isn't going to help with any arguments.
Have you worked in an open plan office in a white collar job? Certainly doesn't sound like it as any magazine that's a bit risqué and
left laying about would certainly will cause negative comments and discussions about professionalism with a line manager in most of the places
I've worked in the last 20 years.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
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steve m
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 03:59 PM | |
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If were to only allow pics of our cars, as avtar's this site would be boreing !!!
there would only be a few hundred
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MikeR
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 04:02 PM | |
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ah, but if we car parts, or even part of cars we'd have many more .....
i can provide a whole collection if people are a bit short 
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Confused but excited.
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I will not put a wig on Homer's naked head for anyone.
[Edited on 15/3/10 by Confused but excited.]
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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cd.thomson
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 04:09 PM | |
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quote:
Originally posted by iank
have you worked in an open plan office in a white collar job? Certainly doesn't sound like it as any magazine that's a bit risqué and
left laying about would certainly will cause negative comments and discussions about professionalism with a line manager in most of the places
I've worked in the last 20 years.
I currently work in IT/Data control in an open plan procurement office where my immediate management tree are all women, yes.
I refer back to my original point that a gadget magazine with some leg on the front cover is not the same as a lads mag where the content is
identifiably sexist and the same is true here.
I don't believe it's a one off image that would see you facing your manager, but the brand/publication itself. In my opinion your argument
is fallacious as you're not comparing like with like.
Craig
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blakep82
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 04:31 PM | |
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i guess you could press the printable view button?
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?fid=18&tid=131979&action=printable
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Fozzie
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 04:33 PM | |
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So......all of you still batting on about work and top/mid shelf mags etc ..... don't really care about the schools colleges and the kids being
able to actually learn something from us petrol heads?
FWIW magazines like 'Nuts' and dodgy day-time tv, aren't officially allowed at educational establishments ..... they are banned too
.... 
The internet filters as far as educational facilities are concerned, are quite strict .....
It does seem as though a lot of business's along with educational facilities do have filters and protocol to follow .... some times you really
do have to take the 'self' out of it, and look at the bigger picture .... keeping in mind of course that this is also a global site, and
what may be acceptable in this country, may not be so in others .......
It can be a tough call...
Fozzie
edited for typo
[Edited on 15-3-10 by Fozzie]
'Racing is Life!...anything before or after is just waiting'....Steve McQueen
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Fozzie
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 04:43 PM | |
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quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
i guess you could press the printable view button?
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?fid=18&tid=131979&action=printable
Hmmmm..... so what you are saying is that because some people want certain types of avatars, everyone else has to use the printable version, thus
stopping them looking at, for example, a build related query where only a picture will do?
Or not being able to answer another builders query because they 'have' to turn off the 'display pictures' option...because
someone wants to display a 'certain type' of avatar?
Disappointing .... 
Fozzie
'Racing is Life!...anything before or after is just waiting'....Steve McQueen
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blakep82
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 04:59 PM | |
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quote:
Originally posted by Fozzie
quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
i guess you could press the printable view button?
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?fid=18&tid=131979&action=printable
Hmmmm..... so what you are saying is that because some people want certain types of avatars, everyone else has to use the printable version, thus
stopping them looking at, for example, a build related query where only a picture will do?
Or not being able to answer another builders query because they 'have' to turn off the 'display pictures' option...because
someone wants to display a 'certain type' of avatar?
Disappointing ....
Fozzie
nope, but it certainly means they can go on looking at for the rest of today at least if they come across something 'unsuitable'. besides,
in the print view, pictures in the thread still show, but not avatars
takes a LOT to offend me. needs to be something personal against me, everything else is fine. some people might find it offensive to have 2 fingers
stuck up at them. not me though. i make my own judgement on whether something is suitable to be done at home or at work etc.
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eddie99
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 05:01 PM | |
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quote:
Originally posted by Fozzie
quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
i guess you could press the printable view button?
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?fid=18&tid=131979&action=printable
Hmmmm..... so what you are saying is that because some people want certain types of avatars, everyone else has to use the printable version, thus
stopping them looking at, for example, a build related query where only a picture will do?
Or not being able to answer another builders query because they 'have' to turn off the 'display pictures' option...because
someone wants to display a 'certain type' of avatar?
Disappointing ....
Fozzie
No its not, but a temporary quick solution?
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blakep82
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 05:02 PM | |
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quote:
Originally posted by eddie99
No its not, but a temporary quick solution?
precisely
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scootz
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 05:06 PM | |
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I'm in...
It's Evolution Baby!
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Peteff
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 05:45 PM | |
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quote:
Originally posted by cd.thomson
at least shay lauren will pop up every now and then still 
That would be Shay Laren Craig Not that I condone such filth and depravity on the internet
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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flak monkey
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 05:51 PM | |
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Ahhh, I am all for free speech etc and having whatever avatar you want, but if it causes people problems then I'll happily change it. If anyone
had U2U'd me about it then I would have changed it long ago, but I have never had a single complaint....
You wont find many people more open minded than me, but I also understand that there are a lot of people who dont see things the same way. Trust me, I
work with a few closed minded people....
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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Fozzie
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 06:13 PM | |
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quote:
Originally posted by Fozzie
quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
i guess you could press the printable view button?
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?fid=18&tid=131979&action=printable
Hmmmm..... so what you are saying is that because some people want certain types of avatars, everyone else has to use the printable version, thus
stopping them looking at, for example, a build related query where only a picture will do?
Or not being able to answer another builders query because they 'have' to turn off the 'display pictures' option...because
someone wants to display a 'certain type' of avatar?
Disappointing ....
Fozzie
Steve McQueen isn't even looking at the camera and his arm is aimed away from the camera, he isn't looking or aiming his hand at
you .... it is hardly a 'sexual' image in the greater scheme of things......
Again.....some of the replies above are still thinking of the 'self' .... as in, what is or isn't acceptable to yourselves ..... not
what may or maybe offensive to other users in the world or other types of facilities that look to this site for inspiration and guidance.....
I am with Flak in this .... it isn't about your self, but having the fortitude to think of others ......
What I cannot understand is, why no one has u2u'd either him (if that was the offending avatar), or me, but chose to make an issue about it on
the forum ....
'Racing is Life!...anything before or after is just waiting'....Steve McQueen
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UncleFista
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 06:37 PM | |
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quote:
Originally posted by Strontium Dog
I know I'm new here and all that but CRIKEY! I've not seen anything offensive on here yet. Have any of you watched day time telly? Much
more suggestive imagery every day.
Now if some one put up some baps on display I'd agree whole heartedly, but an attractive young lady (or gent) does no harm now does it?
Advertising is based upon it! We are into cars and guess what is used to sell us our goodies!
On the other hand we could be like New Labour and ban and criminalise everything! Watch out for the thought police, NO don't think about it
they'll get you for sure!
No, I avoid daytime TV, one of the reasons I don't watch it is because of the "suggestive imagery". The difference is that daytime
TV is sold using the suggestive imagery, therefore it's part and parcel of daytime TV. This site would carry on unaffected by a girly-avatar
ban..
This site isn't a democracy in any shape or form, it's free to all (none trading) users.
This gives ChrisW (or his little wizards) the right to enforce any rule of his choosing[1].
Personally I prefer none-girly avatars 'cos my 8 yr-old boy is always looking over my shoulder, the girly avatars make it look like I'm
looking at a goth/girly/dating site It's the size of the avatars that annoys me more than anything, on my old laptop or my phone the screen
becomes an unuable width and I have to scroll from side to side.
For the record ChrisW said "As a reminder, we expect all avatars to be no more than 150 pixels high or wide."
It's a pity people don't abide by it IMHO
[1] Including the permanent banning of a member and the posting of statements made to look like they'd been said by the banned member (I'm
pretty sure this isn't even legal). But you have to take the rough with the smooth
[Edited on 15/3/10 by UncleFista]
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boggle
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 06:39 PM | |
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i like to see cars without their clothes on....
car porn baby!!!!!!!!!
my dads a glamour photographer....after years of pics of naked ladies and blokes everywhere ive become immune to it, but as said before we need to be
carefull of the example we set to young 'uns......
just because you are a character, doesnt mean you have character....
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ShaunB
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 07:03 PM | |
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Whoa, seemed to have rocked the boat a bit here!
For the record I personally had no issue with Bianca, but there are probably people in my office who might have, hence looking for a solution.
I've used other forums in the past that had a "Show Avatars y/n" option that presumably got stored as part of the site cookie, hence
allowing different work & home configs.
Today was actually the first time I accessed this site from work, as I had one of those rare 15 min breaks to eat my lunch! My work PC is pretty
locked down, so I'm limited to IE (thanks to those that suggested the Firefox options).
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 08:19 PM | |
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quote:
Originally posted by flak monkey
Apologies for causing anyone any grief. Biancas been banished....
Sorry David - didn't mean to pick on you! Just the way it came out during the discussion. You'd probably get away with 150x150... and
one of the more subtle photos!
As for Firefox - I'm in the same boat as far as work is concerned, as we're officially a Microsoft-using company (we have some links with
them). The software we can load on the machine is strictly controlled (monitored remotely by the IT bods). If I was allowed to use Firefox I'd
probably not complain, as all of the dodgy photos would be selected for blocking.
As Fozzie said though - it's not a case of personal freedom to do what you want - it's respect for others and their environment they have
to work in.
We also have had youngsters of secondary school age using and contributing to this site - possibly from their school. Others have kids looking over
their shoulder at home.
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Strontium Dog
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I must have missed something here! So where are all the lewd and lascivious pics then? Or is it that a picture of a girl with her face showing is
frowned upon because as a "global site" we might be viewed by someone with a funny headdress that doesn't like it! Theres being PC
and there's being a prude too!
To be honest, I have kids and don't want to see anything too suggestive on here either, but the point is I haven't seen anything to worry
me! I am involved with several car clubs (both local with whom I compete and national/"global) and I thought it was refreshing to see people
here were not calling each other gay boys or posting questionable pics in a male dominated arena. You should look at some other car club sites!
You will also perhaps note that although this site is free there are encouragements to pay up. I did so before ever posting as I like to support a
good site. It's not that I am trying to rock any boats here but it does not seem to be a bad place as it is. My 9 yr old daughter is free to
look here anytime and I don't feel I need to monitor her when she does. If you discourage all forms of banter etc purely because it is not to
your taste, rather than distasteful, then it's gonna be a sterile and boring place PDQ
All IMHO of course
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alistairolsen
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 09:09 PM | |
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TBH I think my employers would have more of an issue about me openly browsing the internet than the odd picture. Just keep the window small and scroll
past the pad pics swiftly
And to those with work pcs which suck,try firefox portable!
My Build Thread
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Fozzie
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 09:15 PM | |
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quote:
Originally posted by Strontium Dog
I must have missed something here! So where are all the lewd and lascivious pics then? Or is it that a picture of a girl with her face showing is
frowned upon because as a "global site" we might be viewed by someone with a funny headdress that doesn't like it! Theres being PC
and there's being a prude too!
To be honest, I have kids and don't want to see anything too suggestive on here either, but the point is I haven't seen anything to worry
me! I am involved with several car clubs (both local with whom I compete and national/"global) and I thought it was refreshing to see people
here were not calling each other gay boys or posting questionable pics in a male dominated arena. You should look at some other car club sites!
You will also perhaps note that although this site is free there are encouragements to pay up. I did so before ever posting as I like to support a
good site. It's not that I am trying to rock any boats here but it does not seem to be a bad place as it is. My 9 yr old daughter is free to
look here anytime and I don't feel I need to monitor her when she does. If you discourage all forms of banter etc purely because it is not to
your taste, rather than distasteful, then it's gonna be a sterile and boring place PDQ
All IMHO of course
There are forum rules which you agreed to when you made the phone call to register......
This is NOT about one persons taste or being prudish ..... perhaps if you read the thread, this is not about banter, but avatars ...and not started by
me .... but a male locost builder...because of viewing problems....and has been an issue on and off for a long time, long before you joined a few
weeks ago ... and it is a car builders forum, not for exclusive use by males or even adult males ....
Fozzie
'Racing is Life!...anything before or after is just waiting'....Steve McQueen
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blakep82
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| posted on 15/3/10 at 09:59 PM | |
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thing is though, most things are offensive to someone
quite harmless?
well, not if you live in Iran, Afghanistan, Nigeria and parts of Italy and Greece apparently.
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