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Calling all Fury, Striker, Phoenix, Riot ,J15,etc owners
adithorp - 7/5/14 at 07:19 PM

"Jeremy Phillips designed cars.
Cars from the JP stable, including the Striker, Fury, Phoenix, Riot, J15 and many more."

A proposed new section for owners/builders of any of the cars of Jeremy's design has been brought up in the past. For instance when Chris started the MX5 section

After a recent u2u to Chris he's said that if I start a discussion about it and it raises enough interest he'll consider implementing it.

So if you've got any of JP's 16 designs (or even just an interest in them) shout up. There's got to be at least as many of us as there are for some of the cars that have their own section.

Sam_68 - 7/5/14 at 07:29 PM

As an ex-Phoenix owner, I'd certainly like to see a JPSC section on the forum.

raplma - 7/5/14 at 07:32 PM

As a Star owner I'll second that

Eltel - 7/5/14 at 07:33 PM

Good idea I'm building a fury and could do with some ideas and help

Jenko - 7/5/14 at 07:38 PM

I'm building a j15, and would welcome a jp section.

CRAIGR - 7/5/14 at 07:40 PM

As a current and former Striker,fury,stylus owner i think its a great idea

jeffw - 7/5/14 at 07:41 PM

Go on then...

scudderfish - 7/5/14 at 07:44 PM

Count me in.

matty h - 7/5/14 at 07:44 PM

I think there should be a JPSC section, I currently have a striker, such iconic kit cars should have there own section.
Matty

striker-4age - 7/5/14 at 07:49 PM

As they r the best 😜 why would there b any questions about a section of there own

Thanks

Striker-4age

avagolen - 7/5/14 at 08:02 PM

Count me in.

Would be nice especially if all references to the historic threads could be somehow linked in.

Len.

sjmatthews - 7/5/14 at 08:04 PM

Yerp

bi22le - 7/5/14 at 08:10 PM

Whoop!!

Especially as these are one of the few chassis that are unique in design and hold there own on track.

Go on Chris, Do it!!!

Paul AS - 7/5/14 at 08:22 PM

Yep - I'm in!!

Riskyshift - 7/5/14 at 08:34 PM

Sounds a great idea
Ian

KJK - 7/5/14 at 08:34 PM

Sounds good to me

ian locostzx9rc2 - 7/5/14 at 08:37 PM

Plus one

zekill - 7/5/14 at 08:57 PM

i'm here too

tims31 - 7/5/14 at 09:12 PM

Yep, count me in too.

Would be a definate help and there are loads of posts on here from JP car owners

matt_gsxr - 7/5/14 at 09:23 PM

Great plan Adi.

Phoenix here.

peter030371 - 7/5/14 at 09:25 PM

I am one who has asked for this before

woodstock - 7/5/14 at 09:28 PM

Sounds good to me.

Madinventions - 7/5/14 at 09:45 PM

Yes please! Count me in.

Sylva Mojo
Sylva Mojo

The Knobs - 7/5/14 at 09:46 PM

Having had many JP cars over the years, and no doubt will again, then yes, its a very good idea.

Paul M - 7/5/14 at 09:51 PM

add me in as well

hobbsy - 7/5/14 at 09:57 PM

Yes please. I can contribute some nice photos of my lightweight chassis where it cracked (now very nicely reinforced)

cerbera - 7/5/14 at 10:06 PM

Sounds like a great idea.
Count me in

PJCTHolmes - 7/5/14 at 10:17 PM

Hi all, this has prompted me to finally register to this site.
I think it's an excellent idea and would be a useful source of info for
those who would build one of Jeremys cars. I'm just waiting for the
time my finances allow me to buy a Vectis kit (if ever!)

theprisioner - 7/5/14 at 10:23 PM

I'm in!

HowardB - 7/5/14 at 10:49 PM

me too please,

fury here,..

mazie - 7/5/14 at 11:03 PM

Yes please
r

watsonpj - 7/5/14 at 11:24 PM

Im in too

jimgiblett - 7/5/14 at 11:31 PM

Sounds like a great idea to me a past Phoenix and present Fury owner.

Jim

plus2s - 8/5/14 at 12:36 AM

Count me in, great idea Striker owner

Paul

tbowdery - 8/5/14 at 12:58 AM

Another Striker owner here. Great plan. Certainly gets my vote.

jeffw - 8/5/14 at 05:20 AM

More interest in one thread than JPSC gets all year....

pjay - 8/5/14 at 05:47 AM

In the process of building a Fury so - yes please!

minitici - 8/5/14 at 07:01 AM

I've dabbled with a Fury & a Leader.

loggyboy - 8/5/14 at 07:14 AM

Yes please Chris.

spegru - 8/5/14 at 07:16 AM

Me too!

Stylus
Blacktop Zetec/ Omex

rallyingden - 8/5/14 at 07:18 AM

Striker is one of my fav's
So yes ... good idea

RD

striker-euan - 8/5/14 at 07:25 AM

Yes please.

davetheboat - 8/5/14 at 08:14 AM

Me too one day I will actually finish the J15!

MattD - 8/5/14 at 08:50 AM

Another Sylva here - this time a couple of Stylus.

Two in the family...
My red Fiat/Lancia 16V turbo powered car - still broken Jeff but getting there - 2014 is slipping by fast, but on track soon I hope !!
& my uncles purple Rover V8 3.5 torque blaster.

Don't get on here very often, but could be persuaded to make the change & that this is another place for JPSC info.
Can see already there's more interest & lurkers than I thought.

Locostbuilders now bookmarked

Cheers
Matt

[Edited on 8/5/14 by MattD]

adithorp - 8/5/14 at 08:53 AM

Onto 5 pages in 12hrs (and most of that overnight) would suggest there's enough demand. Although any question could be asked in a relevant section already, having a specific JP area would help to get make specific queries spotted by the right people to answer them.

The JPSC club discussed ways to encourage people to get involved with the club at our AGM last weekend. One of the suggestions was to try and get a section on here with possibly a sticky thread pointing people towards the club and it's activities. Hopefully we'd both benefit from more traffic should it go ahead.

rost - 8/5/14 at 09:31 AM

Striker and Fury, count me in

SPYDER - 8/5/14 at 10:06 AM

Another Phoenix owner here saying " Good idea!"

pekwah1 - 8/5/14 at 10:12 AM

yes please!

v8kid - 8/5/14 at 10:40 AM

Count me in

nobby_the_sheep - 8/5/14 at 10:45 AM

^^ +1 more

stevebubs - 8/5/14 at 11:00 AM

sounds good

qwerty_100 - 8/5/14 at 11:59 AM

I too would like to JPSC section currently rebuilding a phoenix

FuryRebuild - 8/5/14 at 12:00 PM

shouting up

stevebubs - 8/5/14 at 12:12 PM

Hmmm...

Lots of Sylvas
Lots of Sylvas

the constant builder - 8/5/14 at 12:30 PM

Yes please, count me in.

adithorp - 8/5/14 at 12:47 PM

quote:
Originally posted by stevebubs
Hmmm...

Lots of Sylvas
Lots of Sylvas


I thought that was quite ironic too. Just disapointed mycar is just out of shot in every picture

adithorp - 8/5/14 at 02:18 PM

So, if Chris agrees to a new section, what are peoples thought on a title for it?

In the debate that followed the MX5 section, it got whittled down to...

"Jeremy Phillips designed cars"

...and the strap-line below...

"Cars from the JP stable, including the Striker, Fury, Phoenix, Riot, J15 and many more."

monkeyarms - 8/5/14 at 02:35 PM

Good idea

HowardB - 8/5/14 at 02:58 PM

quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
quote:
Originally posted by stevebubs
Hmmm...

Lots of Sylvas
Lots of Sylvas


I thought that was quite ironic too. Just disapointed mycar is just out of shot in every picture


Adi,

I took a good few pictures of small features on your car, wheel arches, etc, forgot to take an overall shot,. perhaps some else did?

striker16v - 8/5/14 at 04:44 PM

Yes please..

me! - 8/5/14 at 04:59 PM

+1 from me!

stevebubs - 8/5/14 at 05:00 PM

"Cars from the JP (Sylva) stable, including the Stylus, Striker, Fury, Phoenix, Riot, J15, Leader and Star"

bigfoot4616 - 8/5/14 at 05:53 PM

yep, good idea

inkafone - 8/5/14 at 06:45 PM

Good idea - think it should just be called SYLVA's. From memory names used are - Star Leader Striker Fury Stylus Menace Mojo Riot J15 & Vectis. Then there's derivatives like the Leader SS, Fury Spyder, Mojo SE etc

[Edited on 8/5/14 by inkafone]

Sam_68 - 8/5/14 at 07:06 PM

quote:
Originally posted by stevebubs
"Cars from the JP (Sylva) stable, including the Stylus, Striker, Fury, Phoenix, Riot, J15, Leader and Star"


Yes, I think that Sylva should definitely get a mention in the headline.

I'm not sure how 'famous' Jeremy is outside of owners and hardcore enthusiasts - there may be people who have heard of Sylva but who wouldn't connect the name 'Jeremy Philips'. Certainly, if you do a search for 'Sylva', Sylva Autokits is the second to top result, whereas there appear to be quite a lot of JP's in the world!

Maybe even just:
Jeremy Philip's Sylva stable

I'm not sure you'd fit the full list of JP's designs into the strapline. Assuming not, and in the interests of anti-discrimination, how about limiting it to just currently available (and perhaps more recent models) so that we'd at least stand a chance of picking up Google searches by most of those coming to the cars afresh? With due respect to Star owners, there can't be that many active examples still around these days?

Bit of a bugger that he's been so prolific over the years, innit?

Star
Leader
Striker
Phoenix
Fury
Stylus
Jester
Mojo
Riot
Fulcrum
J15
Vectis

Have I missed any?!

dickie b - 8/5/14 at 07:27 PM

Just to be awkward.. I have a Fury with a curvy Phoenix rear end.

Sylva Furynix.

Great idea though - count me in!

SPYDER - 8/5/14 at 08:02 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Sam_68

Have I missed any?!



What about the first CYANA CARS variant? Wasn't it just a Phoenix-esque bodied Striker Mk4?

[Edited on 8/5/14 by SPYDER]

dickie b - 8/5/14 at 08:25 PM

I would say yes - Cyanas have a natural home among Sylvas as the JP DNA is defo there to a certain degree.

Same for Meggt (mojo) and Riot Cars etc... The long extinct Swindon Sports Cars made the Leader for a while too..?

dickie b - 8/5/14 at 08:28 PM

I think early Cyanas were mx5 based on an all new chassis . A mix of Sylva clubman /mk4/ phoenix body panels though.

adithorp - 8/5/14 at 08:36 PM

But should the section title credit Sylva as a company that only currently markets (if JP "markets" anything) 2 of his designs and not credit any of the companies selling his earlier designs.

SPYDER - 8/5/14 at 08:39 PM

quote:
Originally posted by dickie b
I think early Cyanas were mx5 based on an all new chassis . A mix of Sylva clubman /mk4/ phoenix body panels though.



The first CYANA was built on the square tube STRIKER Mk4 chassis. The jigs and rights were acquired from Stuart Taylor Motorsport IIRC.
The subsequent round tube STM Phoenix chassis (like my car) had little or no JP input AFAIK. Full of JP DNA though, as you rightly say.

[Edited on 8/5/14 by SPYDER]

stevebubs - 8/5/14 at 09:31 PM

quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
But should the section title credit Sylva as a company that only currently markets (if JP "markets" anything) 2 of his designs and not credit any of the companies selling his earlier designs.


A lot of people still associate things like the Fury, Jester, Mojo, Striker, Pheonix etc with Sylva...agreed you don't want to alienate the new owners who have developed the cars first, but they all have the same root..

Would be good to have a sticky at the top of the forum with a list of the cars and their current stable...

Sam_68 - 8/5/14 at 09:59 PM

quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
But should the section title credit Sylva as a company that only currently markets (if JP "markets" anything) 2 of his designs and not credit any of the companies selling his earlier designs.


It's arguable, I know.

But would most people recognise Caterham, Xanthos, Evante and (stretching the point a little) the VX220 and Tesla as 'cars from the Colin Chapman stable', or 'cars from the Lotus stable', do you think?

JP and Sylva Autokits Ltd. are effectively one and the same, and all models originated as Sylva products. So whether you call the section 'Jeremy Philip's stable' or 'Sylva stable' (or both: I still reckon that 'Jeremy Philip's Sylva Stable' is snappy enough - alliterative, even - and covers both bases), it amounts to the same thing.

...just that many people will recognise the name of the Sylva marque from magazine articles and race results who may not necessarily recognise JP's name or link him to a particular model?

In which case 'Jeremy Philip's Sylva Stable' will educate them.

Sam_68 - 8/5/14 at 10:04 PM

quote:
Originally posted by stevebubs
Would be good to have a sticky at the top of the forum with a list of the cars and their current stable...


Yes, good idea... it's hard to keep track, sometimes, and contact details for those models still available would be useful to some people.

We could add photos as a 'spotters guide'... who's going to volunteer as Chief Anorak to do the definitive guide to the various Marks of Striker/Phoenix/Clubmans?

adithorp - 8/5/14 at 10:41 PM

It's been pointed out to me than JP himself isn't all that happy about the JPSC club having his name in it's title. He's too modest by far.

"Sylva derived" is starting to look like a Leader

[Edited on 8/5/14 by adithorp]

BDMStriker - 8/5/14 at 11:27 PM

Another Striker thumbs up

loggyboy - 8/5/14 at 11:35 PM

originated rather than derived?

bi22le - 8/5/14 at 11:35 PM

quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
It's been pointed out to me than JP himself isn't all that happy about the JPSC club having his name in it's title. He's too modest by far.

"Sylva derived" is starting to look like a Leader

[Edited on 8/5/14 by adithorp]


ahh what does he know!!!

nre - 9/5/14 at 06:38 AM

Given the level of traffic on this thread, yes from me!

I was worried about further diluting the number of places to talk 'Sylva', but it seems there are already more people on here than anywhere else...!

Camber Dave - 9/5/14 at 07:14 AM

Well this thread took off didn't it

I would have to add my vote.
With a mate, we have the Leader moulds, jigs and sales rights.
I have been remaking the chassis initially to be Sierra based but now obviously to take MX 5 parts.
I am always busy with my main work so progress is slow.

We did recently offer it for sale through CKC but no takers. If anyone else has the time and commitment to take it on get in touch.
Otherwise I will continue as and when time allows.
I would consider building/rechassis-ing a customer car in tandem as that would also focus my attention…..

Dave

Alfa145 - 9/5/14 at 08:15 AM

Another Stylus here

RichN - 9/5/14 at 11:06 AM

I have a RIOT-SE, so count me in.

jeffw - 9/5/14 at 12:19 PM

I take it you guys are aware of the JPSC and the forum http://www.jpsc-online.co.uk ?

Dopdog - 9/5/14 at 07:32 PM

one from me as well

matt_gsxr - 9/5/14 at 11:55 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Dopdog
one from me as well


Simon,

You are lapsed now you are a Jedi.

Sylva owner, not you are now.

jeffw - 10/5/14 at 04:55 AM

Sylva owner no longer are you....

Mind you I think it was a RAW anyway lol

adithorp - 10/5/14 at 08:22 AM

quote:
Originally posted by matt_gsxr
quote:
Originally posted by Dopdog
one from me as well


Simon,

You are lapsed now you are a Jedi.

Sylva owner, not you are now.


That brightened up my morning.

Smoking Frog - 10/5/14 at 08:57 AM

Took me a while to click this post as I not a Fury, Striker, Phoenix, Riot, J15, etc owner, but would like to see a JP section happen. Great idea!

striker-4age - 10/5/14 at 10:10 AM

Simon will have to be let off from not owning a Sylva-raw car as he did own the best car around !!!!!!!!!

Ok I now own the car so I may be a little biased 👍

Rosco - 10/5/14 at 10:24 AM

Lost of interest, Fantastic. I'm building a Fury.

Ugg10 - 10/5/14 at 10:41 AM

Mazie u2u sent as I think youhave the car I built.

Edit - it is, looked at you profile and I sold the car to you, it was up for sale a couple of years ago and thought it had changed hands.

[Edited on 10/5/14 by Ugg10]

[Edited on 10/5/14 by Ugg10]

Kdempsie - 10/5/14 at 05:44 PM

I'd support this idea too.

Dopdog - 10/5/14 at 10:50 PM

I am up again no more jedi but an oms owner these days ;-),

Also did own andnbuild a sylva as well as 2more of them so I vote for me to stay in the club

stevebubs - 11/5/14 at 12:18 AM

Front page is still predominantly Sylva...

Beardy - 11/5/14 at 05:16 AM

Here too...

yogibear1969 - 12/5/14 at 08:47 AM

As 'Head Fool' AKA Chair, at JPSC, can I think Adrian for requesting this, and of course adding my full support.
I believe Adrian has offered a danation to help with this service, can I validate this.
Regards
Edward Berresford
JPSC.

six mad - 12/5/14 at 11:40 AM

Another striker owner vote from me

six mad - 12/5/14 at 11:45 AM

quote:
Originally posted by jeffw
I take it you guys are aware of the JPSC and the forum http://www.jpsc-online.co.uk ?


No i was not aware of this forum, Thanks for the link.

yogibear1969 - 12/5/14 at 11:49 AM

With reference to JP, that is why we are the JPSC and not Jeremy Phillips Club, although JP isn't ecstatic about the JP bit he tolerates it and supports us!
Why he's so shy I don't know, he should be extremely proud of all his achievements.
Edd

Dopdog - 12/5/14 at 02:32 PM

I think I will buy another one
watch out!

MkII - 12/5/14 at 02:41 PM

100 replies. Is that enough Chris?

adithorp - 12/5/14 at 02:47 PM

I don't think I've ever had a 100 replys to a thread I've started before... and all positive.

Dopdog - 12/5/14 at 03:32 PM

must mean we like them then

jeffw - 12/5/14 at 04:02 PM

quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
I don't think I've ever had a 100 replys to a thread I've started before... and all positive.


Wanders off to think about what nasty things to say about Adi.....

[Edited on 12/5/14 by jeffw]

jeffw - 12/5/14 at 06:07 PM

can't think of anything

Rich J - 12/5/14 at 06:46 PM

Another frequenter of both forums here

bi22le - 12/5/14 at 08:11 PM

quote:
Originally posted by jeffw
can't think of anything


Over two hours thinking time and you come up with nothing!!

adithorp - 12/5/14 at 08:29 PM

quote:
Originally posted by bi22le
quote:
Originally posted by jeffw
can't think of anything


Over two hours thinking time and you come up with nothing!!


I'm disappointed as well.

jeffw - 12/5/14 at 08:44 PM

Well....I was trying to be polite.....he has a little engine after all, he'll get a complex if you go on about it

matt_gsxr - 15/5/14 at 09:37 PM

Any update on this addition section thing?

stevebubs - 19/5/14 at 10:52 PM

bump?

loggyboy - 27/5/14 at 06:53 AM

quote:
Originally posted by stevebubs
bump?

And again

jeffw - 27/5/14 at 07:16 AM

lets just use

http://www.jpsc-online.co.uk

for all Sylva/JP related conversations.

encyd - 30/5/14 at 04:23 PM

bump!